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Episode 388 - David Van fallout and the USA's Forgotten Invasions
In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) 388
(00:41) Introduction
(03:43) Dying With Dignity
(04:52) The Voice
(05:39) The Greens
(22:09) David Van
(31:44) Nicole Werner
(37:37) Geoffrey Sachs on NYT
(40:20) AUKUS
(42:18) Right Wing Brains
(47:00) Reality Show Contestant
(49:03) Taiwan
(51:12) Mexico
(56:29) Trump
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Suburban Eastern Australia.
Speaker:An environment that has over time evolved some extraordinarily
Speaker:unique groups of homo sapiens.
Speaker:But today we observe a small tribe akin to a group of meka that gather together
Speaker:atop a small mound to watch question and discuss the current events of their city,
Speaker:their country, and their world at large.
Speaker:Let's listen keenly and observe this group fondly known as the
Speaker:Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove.
Speaker:Yes, the Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove we're back again episode 388.
Speaker:There's people already in the chat room.
Speaker:Watley is in the chat room.
Speaker:He was making comments before we even started.
Speaker:This podcast, which shocked us all.
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Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:That's first Watley.
Speaker:We didn't know that that was actually possible to comment
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Speaker:Yes, episode 388.
Speaker:I'm Trevor, aka the Iron.
Speaker:Fist with me as always, Scott the Velvet.
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Speaker:Trevor.
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Speaker:We're on tightrope, there's no net below us and we just Okay.
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Speaker:He a moderate amount of abuse at us.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Throw verbal rocks at, throw verbal rocks at Trevor when
Speaker:he is defending the Russians.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And the Chinese and the greens and other people like that.
Speaker:So, well, what are we gonna talk about tonight?
Speaker:Actually added a few topics that I hadn't intended to deal with at the last minute.
Speaker:So Scott has been busy hasn't had a chance to read much, but he's gonna
Speaker:wing it and we'll see how we go.
Speaker:So we're, we should briefly mention that the voice got through the Senate
Speaker:in terms of the decision to hold.
Speaker:We'll go for a refer referendum.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So we'll talk briefly about that.
Speaker:We've got the greens who have won concessions from labor, but not
Speaker:enough, and have decided they're just gonna block the whole rock show.
Speaker:So we'll talk about whether that's acceptable behavior on
Speaker:their part, good strategy or not.
Speaker:We'll get to that.
Speaker:We've got Brittany Higgins fallout with David Van, and turns out he's
Speaker:a bit of a grouper according to various females in the Parliament.
Speaker:And a bit more about propaganda and western media.
Speaker:I, I found some stuff because there wasn't a lot.
Speaker:I was looking through my old notes.
Speaker:I've got this sort of miscellaneous section and I dragged out a couple
Speaker:of things that I'd had in there for just such a moment as this.
Speaker:And one was about neuroscience, looking at left and right brain,
Speaker:well left and right wingers, and the difference in their brains.
Speaker:Apparently we are hardwired to some extent interesting.
Speaker:And maybe we'll get onto the Mexican American war.
Speaker:See how we go just for something different.
Speaker:So, before we get onto long time ago, have they paid for the wool yet?
Speaker:Well, happy to have the law keeping those Americans out.
Speaker:It's probably what's, they're happy to have it.
Speaker:Okay, before we get into other things, just briefly, I get emails from Dying
Speaker:with Dignity and the latest email and a very interesting link to a new resource
Speaker:documenting the first 100 days of voluntary assisted dying in Queensland.
Speaker:And it features podcast interviews and articles of patients and families who've
Speaker:accessed a voluntary assisted dying through Brisbane's Health Metro North.
Speaker:And this is a site hosted by Q U T.
Speaker:Anyway, the stories are very powerful.
Speaker:I just read one of them and nearly teared up.
Speaker:And definitely if you're interested in that topic there'll be a link in the show
Speaker:notes and otherwise just go and Dying With Dignity website, wherever that is.
Speaker:I'm sure there'll be a link there.
Speaker:And really moving stories of what people are experiencing
Speaker:as they access the service.
Speaker:Recommend that for you?
Speaker:I haven't listened to it yet.
Speaker:I've got that on my list to listen to.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:You know, cuz I received the same email.
Speaker:You do.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, they're good.
Speaker:They don't bombard you with stuff, but the stuff they send you is good.
Speaker:So, yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:The voice, yes, it's passed through the Senate, not unexpectedly.
Speaker:So there will be a referendum and so yes, there will be an episode where it's a
Speaker:deep dive into all of the pros and cons.
Speaker:I've been keeping a list, checking it twice of all the parts I need to cover.
Speaker:I'm getting more stuff from Paul, from Canberra.
Speaker:He keeps sending me links and things that I have to read and
Speaker:address as part of all this.
Speaker:So it's, we'll eventually get round to it.
Speaker:You're gonna have to get some John Farnam in for that episode.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:For the voice.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So yes, that's on the agenda in the not too distant future.
Speaker:That'll be a long episode.
Speaker:See how that goes.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:First substantive one, the greens.
Speaker:Have they gone too far because they've won concessions?
Speaker:Basically we had this situation where labor had arranged to have
Speaker:a fund and the earnings from that fund would be used towards housing.
Speaker:And the green said not enough.
Speaker:And so the labor party said, okay, well here's I think 2
Speaker:billion for the first year.
Speaker:And some sort of emergency funding.
Speaker:And the green said Great.
Speaker:And later said, okay, how about passing the bill?
Speaker:And the green said, what about renters and a cap on, or a freeze on rent increases?
Speaker:And the greens have said they're not gonna pass.
Speaker:The bills that would provide that funding that we've just talked about, unless
Speaker:labor passes laws regarding rent freezes.
Speaker:Scott, it sounds a bit like where we were with, with cap sort of carbon cap and
Speaker:trade and carbon pricing and, and Yeah.
Speaker:But it just wasn't good enough for the, what do you think, Scott?
Speaker:Well, I think inkling as to how you think about this.
Speaker:The greens have made the perfect, the enemy of the good.
Speaker:Now, I think what the, what the labor government has actually
Speaker:proposed is good, but the greens want something better than good.
Speaker:They want perfect.
Speaker:So they have, they've made the enemy of the good, the perfect, so that is a.
Speaker:That's how it boils down to a nutshell with me.
Speaker:Do I actually, am I actually opposed to what the Greens actually want?
Speaker:Well, I'm not exactly certain of that because I have been reading differing
Speaker:opinions on the whole thing regarding rental freezers and that type of thing.
Speaker:The greens have perfectly right.
Speaker:The, there wasn't a problem, freezing rent and that sort of stuff when you had
Speaker:the covid pandemic raping the country.
Speaker:So I understand where they're coming from, but now that everything is returning
Speaker:to normal, including interest rates and all that type of thing, I am not sure
Speaker:that it's the right time to freeze rents and that type of thing, because I just
Speaker:think that with interest rates going up, mortgage repayments are going up.
Speaker:Interest being charged by the banks are going up and yet they're gonna hold a gun
Speaker:to my head and say, well Scott, you can't have a rental increase on your property.
Speaker:Probably makes it unattractive for people to buy.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Buy investment properties.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Is that a bad thing?
Speaker:If people suddenly get scared off and go, Hmm can't make money, I'm gonna sell it.
Speaker:Wouldn't that open up housing for people who don't see it as an investment?
Speaker:Well, what, what that, what that will do is that will drive
Speaker:down the price of housing.
Speaker:Which if you don't own anything, that sounds like a great idea to someone
Speaker:like me that has got property and someone like you that has got property.
Speaker:If you were to watch that property value fall and that sort of stuff,
Speaker:you're not going to feel as wealthy as you once did, which is going to
Speaker:restrict the amount of money you can spend and that type of thing.
Speaker:So that is a dangerous position for us to go into.
Speaker:And I guess the greens are calculating that the.
Speaker:The people sort of 40 years and younger.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Well, well the renters, I guess they're calculating the renters,
Speaker:the people who haven't bought yet.
Speaker:The renters who are their core voter, they're core demographic.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And I agree, and I understand that's why they're going, that's why they're going
Speaker:down this road and that type of thing is they're trying to, they're trying
Speaker:to paint, me and other property owners is Monopoly man, Barrons and that sort
Speaker:of stuff that are out there to try and make an absolute fortune out of it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Which is kinda like the slumlord of regional Queensland that
Speaker:sort of, I own one place up in Mackay that is currently rented.
Speaker:I am currently renting down here in Rockhampton and I own a, I
Speaker:own a place in, except you do not have to justify yourself to me.
Speaker:You are a generous soul.
Speaker:You don't have to justify yourself to me.
Speaker:Yeah, I know.
Speaker:It's one of those things like I actually, I do actually feel bad for people that
Speaker:haven't been able to buy anything.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Because I bought my house at the right time.
Speaker:I sold it at the absolute top of the market for an obscene amount of money.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:It's I don't understand.
Speaker:I, I don't understand.
Speaker:No, what am I trying to say?
Speaker:You cannot repeat what I've done because I was very fortunate
Speaker:when I bought and when I sold.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Now that doesn't mean that everyone that's got my color hair and
Speaker:that type of thing is going to be in exactly the same situation.
Speaker:There are some people that made some absolute disastrous decisions
Speaker:and that type of thing at the same time that I made what turned
Speaker:out to be a very good decision.
Speaker:So, you know, I suppose I was very lucky with that house.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:It's very difficult to wind these things back.
Speaker:Oh, it is.
Speaker:And do it.
Speaker:Fairly.
Speaker:And one of the things, you know, if you could actually engineer this, one of
Speaker:the things I would like to see happen is that rental prices hit a plateau.
Speaker:And, and that if they end up, if you end up with housing prices hitting a
Speaker:plateau and they remain there for a number of years, that wouldn't be too bad.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's what we need is basically, rather than things dropping.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Just have to be held at zero.
Speaker:Held at zero, zero growth a long time.
Speaker:Very minus very minor growth per year, you know?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And over time investors will bail because they have better returns elsewhere.
Speaker:Yet homeowners won't be crushed if you like, and can buy
Speaker:and sell in the same market.
Speaker:Cause if it's your own home, then.
Speaker:If you're buying and selling at the same time, it's, you're okay.
Speaker:And, and, and surely this is neutral to you, Scott.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Because if there's a rental freeze or decrease as a renter,
Speaker:you are gonna profit off that.
Speaker:Even though your investment property, you, so you only own one property?
Speaker:No, I own two rental properties.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Yeah, I was gonna say, if you own only own the one, then you are no worse off.
Speaker:No, that's right.
Speaker:Now, you know, it's, the place in Mackay is gonna become my house
Speaker:again when I move back up there.
Speaker:But it's just one of those things that, the moment it's rented out.
Speaker:So that's the.
Speaker:Main frontline thing I have on the whole rental market because that's
Speaker:rented out through a real estate agent and that type of thing.
Speaker:The other one is through the Defense Housing Association, which is the army is
Speaker:my tenant, and the Army does everything.
Speaker:So it's one of those things.
Speaker:Now I don't, hang on.
Speaker:Hang, hang on, hang on a second.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:You're not only the Queensland Regional Slum Board, you're a provider for
Speaker:the military industrial complex, Scott, God, god sake, you knew that
Speaker:I had rented the, you knew that I had bought a rental probably that
Speaker:was gonna be rented by the dha.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:Just having fun.
Speaker:Just Yeah, I know.
Speaker:You're just having fun.
Speaker:But one of these days, Trevor, it's all gonna bite you in the ass.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Ah, let's let's get some, but I won't be a regional slum lord for very much
Speaker:longer because you know, well, The longest I'm gonna be a regional slum,
Speaker:Lord is until February of next year.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I didn't even coin that phrase.
Speaker:That was your partner.
Speaker:That was that.
Speaker:I came up with that.
Speaker:That was thing Brian came up with you in the regional, regional slum.
Speaker:Lord, I think that's it's said as a term of endearment.
Speaker:Yes, I know that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:If I thought you were serious, I'd fly down there and beat the
Speaker:chair here, but no, you're not.
Speaker:So here's here's what friendly Jordy's had to say about it.
Speaker:I'll play a little bit of this.
Speaker:The greens are kicking up a stink.
Speaker:That labor aren't just making one-off investments in housing.
Speaker:Oh wait, sorry.
Speaker:Labor are doing that as petty wag noted in the Senate.
Speaker:The bill the Greens are blocking also includes 2 billion in financing support
Speaker:for social and affordable rental homes.
Speaker:350 million to build a further 10,000 affordable homes through the housing
Speaker:accord, allowing the National Housing and infrastructure facility to invest in
Speaker:social and affordable housing, opening up a potential 575 million in funding a 15%
Speaker:increase in Commonwealth Rent assistance.
Speaker:The largest increase in over 30 years.
Speaker:The fund is a bit like a Sovereign Wealth fund.
Speaker:10.
Speaker:Billion dollars is invested.
Speaker:Then the returns of the fund is spent on building social and affordable
Speaker:housing is set to build 30,000 homes over the next five years.
Speaker:For their first seven years in office, the coalition were building less
Speaker:than 1,100 new dwellings a year.
Speaker:Labor's new fund can build up to 6,000 new dwellings a year.
Speaker:That is a massive increase.
Speaker:The fund is pretty clever because it's designed to ingrain an ongoing
Speaker:source of funding for social housing that sustains itself even when the
Speaker:liberals are in office, as it's operating independently of the budget.
Speaker:Meaning that if the fund passes, it's designed to become a sustained source of
Speaker:housing funding that the liberals will have little or no incentive to destroy.
Speaker:Look at the, that was something I hadn't recognized as a concept from the fund
Speaker:was that it will work when, you know, labor leaves power and the libs are
Speaker:in, there's this fund that's separate from government in a sense, generating
Speaker:money, and of course the liberals could.
Speaker:We'll find a way to staff not that money.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:They could take that fund and just roll it into some other sovereign
Speaker:wealth fund defense, I guess.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yes, they could.
Speaker:But it is an argument for it that you've created a fund that in theory
Speaker:provides money for something that you want even when you're in opposition.
Speaker:Well, that was a sort of part of it that I hadn't thought about before,
Speaker:so that was an interesting part of it.
Speaker:So, let me just, let's get onto Max and what he has to say to
Speaker:this is him in Parliament talking about the Greens position.
Speaker:I've been a renter my entire adult life.
Speaker:I know what it's like to cop an unfair rent increase.
Speaker:I know what it's like to ask for basic repairs and get evicted as a result.
Speaker:And I know what it's like to lose a home you thought you could live in for years.
Speaker:But frankly, I've had it easy and there are millions of
Speaker:renters out there right now.
Speaker:One rent increase away from eviction or financial stress.
Speaker:For the pensioner who knows that they are one rent increase
Speaker:away from living on the streets.
Speaker:For the family who know that as a result of those rent increases,
Speaker:they'll have to pull their kid out of the local school because they can't
Speaker:afford to live in the local area.
Speaker:Those are the people whose lives are being destroyed right now because the
Speaker:Labor Party is so committed to Enshrining unlimited rent increases in this country
Speaker:where Australia is a wealthy country, Australia is a country that is meant
Speaker:to pride itself on giving everyone the basics they need to live a good life.
Speaker:And that is why the greens are fighting so hard.
Speaker:It was the greens who stood up for months being accused by the
Speaker:labor party of standing in the way.
Speaker:And actually what we did was secure 2 billion in funding for social housing.
Speaker:And now we are going to use that power to make sure those renters out there are
Speaker:able to live in dignity and know that there are limits on rent increases, a
Speaker:freeze on rent increases that allow them to go and live a good life authorized by
Speaker:Jay McCall, Australian Greens Canberra.
Speaker:So anyway, I guess the point is that, that the, the bill that's there
Speaker:is about providing housing supply with the assumption and hope that
Speaker:it will then lead to rent relief.
Speaker:It's one of those things, if you've got people out of the private rental market
Speaker:into government subsidized housing mm-hmm.
Speaker:Then that's going to reduce the demand for private rentals,
Speaker:which leads to a fall in rental.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:But I guess his argument is, well, that's a bill for home ownership.
Speaker:We need one for renters that's direct.
Speaker:And now, because that's gonna take a long time, I think that's a good
Speaker:argument to percolate through the system, to buy, to build and to add to
Speaker:the supply, and then to hope that, that then percolate through to a rent relief.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But what were the numbers?
Speaker:There was 1100 a year that was being spent under by the Torries.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:They're talking about possibly 5,000, five or 6,000 being spent
Speaker:being built by the labor government.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Now that is five or six times the amount of that is five or six
Speaker:times the amount of expenditure that happened under the Torries.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Now that is an incredible increase in the in the in the ranks of affordable housing.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Now, I don't think that they're actually talking about this.
Speaker:I don't think they're actually building houses to sell to people
Speaker:cheaply or anything like that.
Speaker:They're building them to rent them out to people cheaply.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:I think tactically the, like the greens are getting pounded
Speaker:on Twitter, for example.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And they're just outweighed by the number of Labor party mps and
Speaker:trade unionists and others who are just, just bagging the greens.
Speaker:There's a lot of anti-green sentiment in there.
Speaker:Probably the smart move politically would've been to say,
Speaker:okay, we'll vote for the bill.
Speaker:We tried renters, we really, really tried.
Speaker:Next a election, you need to vote for us so we've got more power so
Speaker:we can have a better crack at it.
Speaker:And, and just sort of, I think that might have been politically
Speaker:the smarter thing to do, but you know, who knows how it all pan out?
Speaker:I mean, by sticking to their guns, they did get an extra 2 billion.
Speaker:Which labor didn't want to do and they were forced to buy the greens sticking to
Speaker:their guns, so you gotta hand it to 'em.
Speaker:But yeah, if they canceled the submarines or even the phase three tax cuts, yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:If, if they canceled, if they canceled the phase three, the stage three tax
Speaker:cuts, then they would have a hell of a lot more money that they could actually
Speaker:spend on social housing if they wanted to.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So anyway, it's an interesting politics and how the greens
Speaker:get their message out there.
Speaker:In the face of a barrage of negative press from labor will be
Speaker:interesting to see in the chat room.
Speaker:What the question is, sorry.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:If we build 6,000 new houses a year mm-hmm.
Speaker:What's to stop the LMP when they get into power?
Speaker:Doing a Maggie on us and selling it all off.
Speaker:Yes, that's right.
Speaker:Well, that, that could happen.
Speaker:There is no doubt about that.
Speaker:And that's one of the reasons that that's one of the reasons why they've
Speaker:actually tried to enshrine the voice to Parliament in the Constitution because
Speaker:they know that they, they, they can't tear it down the way they did with atsic.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So it's, that's also another reason, probably why they've set up this sovereign
Speaker:wealth fund and all that type of thing because they, they realized that the
Speaker:Tories would have their, would have their would try and be, we'd be trying
Speaker:to sell it and that sort of stuff.
Speaker:They'd want the money themselves.
Speaker:So they've actually decided, well, we lock it up this way, then they can't touch it.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:In the chat room, we've still got Watley there, event Horizon, and Tanya and
Speaker:John's in there as well in the chat room.
Speaker:Say hello.
Speaker:Even if you don't wanna make any comment, just so that we know you're
Speaker:there and you're alive and kicking.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So yeah, that's the main thing to talk about with the Greens.
Speaker:I think you've heard both sides of the argument.
Speaker:I personally think the friendly Jordy's hit the nail on the head myself.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:You know, they, they certainly made it very clear as to what
Speaker:was actually being planned.
Speaker:And you know what though?
Speaker:He didn't give any credit to the Greens for the extra 2 billion,
Speaker:but they're, no, he didn't.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:And the Greens did, actually, did actually extract that from the local party.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:You know, I've got no doubt about that.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So he didn't give all, all of both sides of the story?
Speaker:I don't think so.
Speaker:He sort of hit half a nail on the head.
Speaker:Get sideways a little bit.
Speaker:Fair enough?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Brittany Higgins fallout during the week, so what we had was the
Speaker:opposition has been hounding Katie, Katie Gallagher, about what she knew
Speaker:and didn't know about Britney Higgins and what she said at a Senate estimates
Speaker:committee and what that meant, and whether she misled the committee.
Speaker:And so they're trying to make some sort of headway politically by attacking
Speaker:Katie Gallagher and in parliament.
Speaker:David Van got to his feet and started to add to the pylon, and Lydia
Speaker:Thorpe couldn't take it anymore, rose to her feet, and accused accused.
Speaker:David van of inappropriate sexual on harassment towards her harassment.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And that was all just, you know, of course, through the airwaves.
Speaker:And she subsequently the next day withdrew it on a technicality because
Speaker:technically she shouldn't have done it that way in that format in the parliament.
Speaker:But she said the substance of what she said was true, the liberal Peter Dutton.
Speaker:And that was sort of a bit silent and not really willing to accept Lydia
Speaker:Thorpe's version until pretty soon.
Speaker:Amanda Stoker, former senator.
Speaker:And now was she liberal or national?
Speaker:Yeah, she was a liberal.
Speaker:Oh, well she's from the L N P in Queensland.
Speaker:I couldn't tell you.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:She was a liberal on national.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Came out and said that she had been groped by him.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:So that was it.
Speaker:Then the effort by the liberals to try and make political mileage out of
Speaker:this completely backfired, and they then said to Dutton, had to say to
Speaker:David Van, you're outta the party.
Speaker:And some people stupidly thought the guy would resign from Parliament,
Speaker:but he's just gonna sit on the cross benches and collect his salary,
Speaker:gonna go, he's gonna go anywhere.
Speaker:He's gonna go to one notion, he'll just collect his salary and do whatever
Speaker:he, well, apparently, apparently they've gotta sit him next to Lydia.
Speaker:The haw actually in the Senate.
Speaker:Surely not.
Speaker:Well, apparently that's what they're going to do.
Speaker:Surely not.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Anyway.
Speaker:Really, this liberal L n p political party is just so full of shitty people.
Speaker:As soon as they pop their head over the parapet and you take a
Speaker:look at them, you go, oh my God.
Speaker:Just
Speaker:the caliber of people that they've got there.
Speaker:Horrendous.
Speaker:And you know the whole thing about the text messages, which
Speaker:was what kicked this off?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And what a surprise, she didn't wanna hand over her phone because she was
Speaker:worried that it would be used against her.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And what a surprise, the stuff that was given in confidentiality to the police has
Speaker:been leaked and has been used against her.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And essentially the text messages, there were some text
Speaker:messages to Katie Gallagher.
Speaker:Mm-hmm Katie Gallagher had said in a senate estimates, nobody on
Speaker:our side knew anything about this.
Speaker:And what she was referring to was this being Brittany Higgins about to drop a
Speaker:bombshell on the whole bunch of them.
Speaker:Not that they didn't know anything at all because she had received text messages.
Speaker:So the context was we didn't know she was gonna drop this shit
Speaker:bomb on you guys the way she did.
Speaker:Not that we didn't know anything, but we just sat on it because that was up
Speaker:to her to do that if she wanted to.
Speaker:And that's what they're trying to beat up as inappropriate
Speaker:behavior by the Labor Party.
Speaker:We've got a liberal staffers allegedly harassing other liberal staffers
Speaker:at liberal party events and somehow the liberals are trying to make
Speaker:this the fault of the Labor party.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:They're insane.
Speaker:They should have just pulled their heads in and hoped it would all blow
Speaker:over to actually keep badgering on.
Speaker:With that was just inviting.
Speaker:The sort of thing that just happened to this, this David Van character.
Speaker:They're stupid.
Speaker:I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Speaker:They are stupid.
Speaker:It, it sounds like there needs to be an office of professional
Speaker:responsibility or whatever.
Speaker:Professional conduct.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That, that you can go to anonymously and lodge your complaints against another
Speaker:member of parliament have it investigated.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:They just need a, they just need a brain transplant.
Speaker:There's moral, their moral compass is so out of whack, these guys.
Speaker:It's, it's just mind boggling how bad the liberal party representation is.
Speaker:The sort of people that they've got there.
Speaker:It's horrendous.
Speaker:So, so, but it's all right.
Speaker:They're all Christians.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:That's, well, no coincidence is it.
Speaker:So I, anyway What we've got here is, let me just play a little bit of this
Speaker:is David Spears, I think on insiders.
Speaker:So the fucking abc, just where the smoke their fire, oh, labor.
Speaker:Liberals are talking about Katie Gallagher.
Speaker:Mud's been thrown.
Speaker:Some, some of it must stick, you know, it looks like there's an issue
Speaker:with what she's done without actually examining what's happened and, and
Speaker:just refusing to repeat the bullshit that the liberals have come out with.
Speaker:But they amplify it, pass it on, treat it with respect that it doesn't deserve.
Speaker:So here's a little bit of David Spears.
Speaker:Still defend the strategy of asking these questions.
Speaker:They say, look, we've established that Katie Gallagher mislead Parliament.
Speaker:We've established that labor wasn't necessarily pure hearted, entirely
Speaker:in in the way it pursued the Morrison government over the Britney
Speaker:Higgins allegations back then.
Speaker:But look, along the way, yes, they've dragged up a lot of stuff, and, and
Speaker:some liberals will privately agree this has not been necessarily a good idea.
Speaker:It's, it's left them accused as well of looking like they're, they're
Speaker:weaponizing an issue in particular, weaponizing the leaked text
Speaker:messages of an alleged rape victim.
Speaker:So, look, no one's come out of this a winner, that's for sure.
Speaker:And you know, as Lydia Thorpe, it's just bullshit to say, no
Speaker:one's come outta this winner.
Speaker:Nothing that Katie Gallagher did was wrong.
Speaker:It's just labor's fine in terms of their involvement in this whole fiasco.
Speaker:And to somehow say, ah, they're all.
Speaker:To somehow suggest that the opposition have proved their allegations.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And that, that somehow they're all at fault in some way.
Speaker:What a messy bunch.
Speaker:All of them are pathetic.
Speaker:Just, there we go.
Speaker:That's the abc.
Speaker:Well, I think the shovel had it right, didn't they?
Speaker:What was there one there?
Speaker:What did they say?
Speaker:It's in your email.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, I don't have it to hand.
Speaker:Oh, you did?
Speaker:What did the shovel say?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:In a fiery interview this morning, opposition leader Peter Dutton says it's
Speaker:incumbent on the Labor Party to explain why liberal party Senator David Vann
Speaker:allegedly squeezed the bottom of his liberal party colleague Amanda Stoker,
Speaker:at a liberal party social event in 2020.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:They haven't yet got round to blaming labor for David Vann's conduct, but.
Speaker:It'll happen.
Speaker:Absolutely will.
Speaker:And when they do, David Spears will say, oh, you know, mud thrown on both sides.
Speaker:They're all, both equally as terrible.
Speaker:And you might say it's been been a bit of a bad week for the liberals,
Speaker:but not a great week for labor either.
Speaker:Like, just terrible coverage.
Speaker:Terrible.
Speaker:So, yeah, there we go.
Speaker:That's that whole, sorry, saga.
Speaker:And oh yeah, q and a.
Speaker:So this is a tweet from q and a in the lead up to their latest episode.
Speaker:The PM is facing questions about transparency and whether one of his
Speaker:ministers misled Parliament as the liberal party says it's planning to
Speaker:continue putting labor under pressure.
Speaker:Anybody not really paying attention to this mm-hmm.
Speaker:Would just think shit, labor's done some stuff and the liberals
Speaker:are on top of them and Wow.
Speaker:That's interesting.
Speaker:I'll repeat that again.
Speaker:On q and A, the PM is facing questions.
Speaker:What about transparency and whether one of his ministers misled Parliament as
Speaker:the liberal party says it's planning to continue putting labor under pressure?
Speaker:What's your question?
Speaker:My question is, when are the LMP gonna do something about the absolutely shitty
Speaker:behavior of their employees in Parliament?
Speaker:When are they gonna just cancel q and a and give us reruns of
Speaker:faulty towers or something?
Speaker:Something?
Speaker:No, we could have the reruns of Q and A when Christopher Hitchens was on.
Speaker:Yeah, we could do that.
Speaker:Ah, now in Victoria, Bromwyn's not in the chat room, is she?
Speaker:But I haven't seen her.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:So this came thanks to John, Simmons, who is in the chat room.
Speaker:Thank you John for this this one.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:They've pre-selected a lady called Nicole Werner to be in the Victorian Senate.
Speaker:This is for the Liberal party, and actually, no, it must be for
Speaker:an electorate rather than for the Senate or for their upper house.
Speaker:So this is Victorian liberal party who of course had been smashed
Speaker:by dictator Dan in recent, recent times and not so recent times.
Speaker:And guess what?
Speaker:Nicole is a youth pastor from Planet Shakers Pentecostal Church.
Speaker:Last time she ran in Box Hill, there was an eight 8.9% drop
Speaker:in the liberal party vote.
Speaker:So she's now pre-selected by the liberals to run in the seat of Warren Dite.
Speaker:So, so the liberal party in Victoria.
Speaker:I've now pre-selected a Pentecostal Happy clapper.
Speaker:Happy clapper.
Speaker:And now there's a thing called Channel six News run by this kid Leonardo Puglisi.
Speaker:And he had on his website that Victorian liberals are worried the
Speaker:party will lose that by-election despite holding the seat since 1988.
Speaker:So it was a hotly contested pre-selection and a liberal source has told six
Speaker:news that they and lots of other party members believe the party will lose.
Speaker:Six News has been told there is a large amount of Pentecostals seen at today's
Speaker:pre-selection voting in support of her leaving non Pentecostals gray faced.
Speaker:I am not surprised.
Speaker:In other religious news, did you hear about the Muslim Majority
Speaker:Council in some town in the usa?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:It was celebrated as, you know, what, what a diverse city we are.
Speaker:This is great.
Speaker:We now have a Muslim Majority Council.
Speaker:They ha they, they have banned the rainbow flag being flown on city hall because the
Speaker:majority of their constituents want that.
Speaker:And we do what the majority wants.
Speaker:Yeah, of course.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah, no, I wasn't aware of that.
Speaker:But just you probably are wondering what Nicole Werner is like.
Speaker:I'll just give you a bit of a, a bit of a clip from her.
Speaker:Suffering from a tyrant's socialist agenda that insists on teaching our kids
Speaker:won't crack in our education system.
Speaker:Not to mention living under Ator Dances Victoria over the past two years with
Speaker:unwarranted nighttime curfews be con.
Speaker:Yeah, I know.
Speaker:That's enough.
Speaker:So the minute I hear somebody complaining about woke woke, I immediately know
Speaker:they're a reader of the Australian, like I'm not a fan of wokeness and
Speaker:the unwarranted nighttime curfews.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So she was complaining that she couldn't get out and spread covid
Speaker:during the biggest pandemic we've had.
Speaker:Well, she actually, later in that clip complains that she
Speaker:wasn't allowed to worship.
Speaker:Importantly, she, she could worship it.
Speaker:It says in the Bible, go into your cupboard and pray.
Speaker:It does.
Speaker:She didn't read that bit, obviously.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So it's a, it's a community thing.
Speaker:If you're not worshiping a community, then you're just not doing it.
Speaker:Uh mm.
Speaker:According to her.
Speaker:So if you're not seen to be worshiping.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I mean, dictated damn won an election.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Just recently the people voted and said, yeah, we were fine with all that.
Speaker:The voter fraud.
Speaker:Come on.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:So there were people seen driving up with lots of ballot
Speaker:papers and the mail-in vote.
Speaker:Well, so if you're gonna run against him, my advice to anybody would be don't
Speaker:run the argument about the lockdowns, cuz that's been voted on and done.
Speaker:You've gotta argue about things that have happened since then.
Speaker:And I'm sure there's enough stuff.
Speaker:I mean, things to do with the railways and that, that spend a lot of money.
Speaker:There's a lot of debt in Victoria.
Speaker:You know, you could, you could have a good whinge with some.
Speaker:Oh, some decent arguments about other stuff, but rehashing the lockdown
Speaker:and complaining about your education system and its woke education agenda.
Speaker:But you see, you've got no choice but to go to public schools with
Speaker:their woke agenda because Dict Dan has slapped payroll tax on
Speaker:the, on the Christian schools.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Which is honestly a brilliant thing to do.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, but I mean, that's something that she could have argued
Speaker:about as a, to her constituency.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:And made some headway, but to just rehash that stuff.
Speaker:So yeah, I'm not fan of the woke agenda, but it's not a, it's not a thing saying
Speaker:that we have to concern ourselves with the way that the Australian would, or that
Speaker:Jordan Peterson or Greg Sheridan and all the rest of them wanna talk about anyway.
Speaker:That's Victorian politics once again, making Queensland look good.
Speaker:Thank you, Victoria.
Speaker:Right, I'm sure Bob Cat will come out one of these days and make some comments.
Speaker:Yes, yes.
Speaker:Almost forget the Pauline Hanson's a Queenslander, so, yeah.
Speaker:Well, I can't ever forget that.
Speaker:Please explain.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:She's an idiot.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Look, I was complaining last week about how one-sided Western media is in certain
Speaker:narratives, and I found a clip from Jeffrey Sachs talking about that topic.
Speaker:So I'll just play a little bit of this one where he's describing New York
Speaker:Times and its reluctance to give any space to an alternative narrative.
Speaker:Here we go.
Speaker:The United States has a very hard time thinking through the eyes of anyone else.
Speaker:And when I say us, I, I'm meaning literally a small
Speaker:group of a few hundred people.
Speaker:I'm not speaking about the American people.
Speaker:They're not told anything about this.
Speaker:And just as a footnote, I've tried to explain the role of NATO in this
Speaker:to the New York Times, and they will not print anything on this.
Speaker:They've written 26 editorials since February 24th, 2022,
Speaker:that this is an unprovoked war.
Speaker:I called them, I wrote to them, I said, I've advised all these leaders, these
Speaker:countries, I've been through this for.
Speaker:Three decades.
Speaker:Can you give me 700 words?
Speaker:The answer is no.
Speaker:There's a complete unwillingness to have any discussion about this because if you
Speaker:do, you're put on Ukraine's blacklist and you're put on America's no show list.
Speaker:Hey, goes on to say, it doesn't matter.
Speaker:It's not just Republicans or not just Democrats.
Speaker:It's all the same.
Speaker:And, and those people who don't believe that humans are causing climate
Speaker:change, they're not invited anymore.
Speaker:You know, they, they don't get a chance to print an editorial in the New York Times.
Speaker:Yeah, well that's true.
Speaker:But I guess you've got a preponderance of the scientific community saying 97% of us
Speaker:say this is the situation and believe me.
Speaker:Putin is well and truly getting his message out there.
Speaker:Maybe not in the mainstream press, but I, I had to scroll through
Speaker:fa not Facebook, YouTube today.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And some of the stuff I was seeing on there.
Speaker:Yes, no doubt.
Speaker:No doubt.
Speaker:But you know, when people talk about propaganda in China or Russia or whatever,
Speaker:you just have to recognize the same propaganda is happening in Western media.
Speaker:It's just more cleverly disguised, if you like.
Speaker:But there you go.
Speaker:That was Jeffrey Sachs on New York Times, not wanting to
Speaker:run a counter narrative Orus.
Speaker:So an article from the Australian Financial Review talked briefly about
Speaker:the Queensland branch, which we mentioned last week at its state conference.
Speaker:There was a motion on orcus.
Speaker:Now I thought at the time that they had put forward an or a motion condemning
Speaker:orcus, but in fact what happened was that a motion was put forward praising orcus
Speaker:and the delegates refused to pass it.
Speaker:So that's how that worked.
Speaker:And and then there's, Victoria is coming up with its own Labor Party
Speaker:conference, and it looks like there will be a motion, more or less
Speaker:condemning the orcus arrangement, expressing profound disappointment
Speaker:over the government's decision.
Speaker:So maybe Victoria will pass a motion.
Speaker:Demanding genuine debate and consultation and calling to question the whole thing.
Speaker:So, so yeah, that was Queensland and Victoria and there's a national
Speaker:conference going to be later in the year.
Speaker:The writer of this article is dubious about whether something would be passed at
Speaker:that, which would be negative about Orcus because the factions would not allow it.
Speaker:But anyway, Victoria and Queensland not happy with Orcus.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:How are we going for time?
Speaker:Eight 14.
Speaker:It's probably gonna be short episode.
Speaker:This one in the show notes for the patrons.
Speaker:Also if you're not a patron and you wanna get the show notes, if you
Speaker:are donating through PayPal, cuz some people do give us something.
Speaker:Email and I will.
Speaker:Give you a link to a Dropbox where you can get the show notes, the extended ones.
Speaker:So do that if you'd like.
Speaker:But this was an article by a guy, John Willoughby, emeritus
Speaker:Professor of Medicine, an honorary consultant neurologist at Flinders
Speaker:University and Medical Center.
Speaker:He wrote an article in the John MedU blog that was sitting in my
Speaker:miscellaneous file for possibly years until I had the chance to get
Speaker:to it and looking at brain activity.
Speaker:And here's what they do with people.
Speaker:So, put them in an MRI machine and people are scored on a left winging to right
Speaker:wing scale using answers to questions like, do you support same sex marriage?
Speaker:Do you support gun to control?
Speaker:Are you religious, et cetera.
Speaker:So the people are sort of categorized as left or right wing based on those answers.
Speaker:Then the participants undertaken apparently mindless task in which
Speaker:they have to respond to a visual signal, which is briefly displayed on
Speaker:a monitor by pressing a timer button.
Speaker:They're given these instructions.
Speaker:Look at the monitor.
Speaker:If you see an X appear on the screen here, the button, if you see a Y appear
Speaker:on the screen, don't hit the button.
Speaker:All the while their brain activity is being recorded.
Speaker:In this test, X is very frequent.
Speaker:So the usual response to a letter appearing is to hit the button.
Speaker:When the very rare Y appears, the response is to withhold the usual
Speaker:action of hitting the button.
Speaker:So these tests are known as go, no go tests.
Speaker:And so there are many studies demonstrating that people on the right
Speaker:side of the political spectrum have stronger markers of emotional activation.
Speaker:To unexpected change than people on the left.
Speaker:So when they see the why and they're not supposed to hit the button,
Speaker:stronger markers of emotional activation for right wingers.
Speaker:So, so yeah, they get more emotional and there are other kinds of difference.
Speaker:People with left wing attitudes have a larger anterior singulate
Speaker:cortex, smaller right amygdala and smaller left insular findings that
Speaker:correlate with levels of activity in the structures when they deal with
Speaker:information counter to their experience.
Speaker:The interpretation here is that people with left-wing attitudes
Speaker:think more deeply or differently when information is unexpected.
Speaker:In contrast to people with right-wing attitudes whose
Speaker:responses are more emotional.
Speaker:Jonathan Hay.
Speaker:Wrote a book called The Righteous Mind.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Which explores at a psychological rather than at a physical level mm-hmm.
Speaker:The difference between right and left.
Speaker:And they said, effectively they are disgusted by different things.
Speaker:So Right wingers are disgusted by things that are against moral
Speaker:norms, against societal norms.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:The left are more disgusted by adulterous of food of the planet.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So, as his said, effectively they are both kneejerk reactions, but they're
Speaker:kneejerk reactions to different things.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And that's why we get the clumping.
Speaker:But yes, it's very much an ingrained thing.
Speaker:It's a, it's a hardwired thing.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So this is same as a hard wiring for right wingers to have a more emotional
Speaker:response to unexpected change.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Very interesting.
Speaker:As you're talking to your left and right-wing friends, and also
Speaker:also oh, there's a psychologist Justin Lay Miller mm-hmm.
Speaker:Who wrote a book about people's kinks, big cross population survey in America,
Speaker:and said that the right wingers get turned on by the thought of inky behavior.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Cuckolding.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So because that's going against their social norms, right.
Speaker:You know, you know, the, the marriage is sacrosanct and therefore to be
Speaker:cuckolded is such a turn on right.
Speaker:Whereas left wingers female empowerment is the, is the norm, right?
Speaker:And therefore dom sub relationships are much more an interest in left wings.
Speaker:There we go.
Speaker:Sexual proclivities reveal sex.
Speaker:Sexual proclivities is all about flipping the social norms is all
Speaker:about taking those things that aren't allowed in your subgroup and
Speaker:Right, and turning them on the head.
Speaker:There we go.
Speaker:So it's, yeah, interesting.
Speaker:Think about that, dear listener.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Just an article about those cruel Chinese.
Speaker:I don't think I've mentioned this story before.
Speaker:I'm pretty sure I've heard it somewhere.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I'm worried.
Speaker:I might have mentioned it.
Speaker:But anyway, there was a Russian man trapped on a Chinese reality TV show.
Speaker:He joined a boy band competition on Chinese TV on a whim, but regretted his
Speaker:decision, basically wanted to leave.
Speaker:And they said, well, you can't leave.
Speaker:You'll pay a hefty fine.
Speaker:It's gonna cost you a lot of money.
Speaker:You've gotta hope to be voted out.
Speaker:And so he would do terrible performances and plead with
Speaker:the audience to vote him off.
Speaker:The Chinese audience refused to they, they, as a sort of a Chardon Freud
Speaker:sort of thing made him stay despite the fact that he wanted to leave and
Speaker:became quite, quite the thing to get on and vote to keep this Russian on
Speaker:the show, despite his wishes to leave.
Speaker:And so he was propelled through three months of competition and 10 episodes
Speaker:a fan base, which had taken to his grumpy Antice celebrity persona or were
Speaker:perhaps driven by Chardon Freud urged each other to vote for him and let him.
Speaker:9 96 and 9 96 is a reference in China's digital industry
Speaker:culture of chronic overwork.
Speaker:9:00 AM to 9:00 PM six days a week.
Speaker:So let this Russian guy, let him.
Speaker:9, 9, 6.
Speaker:Others called him the most miserable wage slave and celebrated him as
Speaker:an icon of sang culture, a Chinese millennial concept of having a
Speaker:defeatist attitude towards life.
Speaker:That's funny.
Speaker:Somebody trying to get I can see other cultures doing that though.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:Finally, two quick topics.
Speaker:Really, China, well, US is worried about Taiwan because they think they're just
Speaker:gonna do what the US did to Hawaii.
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:Are you guys aware of the sort of history of Hawaii and the US.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And position came to know about it after listening to a podcast
Speaker:by American History Tellers.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And they were talking about it.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And yeah, they really Well, the, the Hawaiian, the Hawaiian Royal family was
Speaker:really screwed over by the Americans.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And they ended up losing their whole country to the Americans.
Speaker:And the Americans, I think only made the mistake in 1950 something, didn't they?
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Well, they basically organized a co atar and Yeah.
Speaker:And there was in 1990, so this happened back in 1893 which they eventually,
Speaker:that was when things got underway, and they eventually acquired the island
Speaker:as part of the United States in 1898.
Speaker:In 1993, there was an apology resolution by the US Congress.
Speaker:Conceding that the overthrow of the kingdom of Hawaii occurred with
Speaker:the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States
Speaker:and the Native Hawaiian people.
Speaker:People never directly relinquished to the United States, their claims
Speaker:to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands.
Speaker:So essentially in admission by the us yep, we engineered a coup.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:And that was in 1993, it sounded like America.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I wonder who was in charge in 93.
Speaker:It would've been that that would've been w wouldn't it?
Speaker:No, it would've been Clinton actually.
Speaker:Clinton would've been maybe Clinton.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:If Reagan was the eighties, Clinton would've been, yeah.
Speaker:Clinton would've been in the nineties.
Speaker:Doesn't sound like something Reagan or Bush would've done.
Speaker:It have been Clinton.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, so there we go.
Speaker:Just bear that in mind and also just, I was the same time I had a little
Speaker:thing there about the Mexican American war and essentially Texas had kind
Speaker:of tried to the Texas te, what is now known as Texas, that rough territory
Speaker:had tried to say that it had broken away from Mexico as an independent area.
Speaker:Republican Texas wasn't it?
Speaker:Remembered the Alamo.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The US couldn't accept Texas because of problems with the
Speaker:voting blocks on slavery.
Speaker:So it was sort of, the US hadn't acquired it.
Speaker:They claimed to have seceded from Mexico.
Speaker:The US then sent troops into Texas, more or less goading the amec, the
Speaker:Mexicans, into a conflict and then.
Speaker:Proceeded to go into all our war with the Mexicans, and if you looked dear
Speaker:listener at your phone, the chapters should show a map of what was Mexico.
Speaker:And you can see it was a huge area that was taken.
Speaker:It was a very big country.
Speaker:Yeah, it was a massive area that was taken.
Speaker:And according to Wikipedia, in 1844, United States presidential
Speaker:election, Democrat James K.
Speaker:Polk was elected on a platform of expanding US
Speaker:territory in Oregon and Texas.
Speaker:Polk advocated expansion by either peaceful means or by armed force
Speaker:with the 1845 annexation of Texas as furthering that goal for Mexico.
Speaker:This was itself a provocation, but Polk went further sending
Speaker:us Army troops to the area.
Speaker:Sent a diplomatic mission to Mexico to try and negotiate a sale of the territory.
Speaker:The US troops presence was a provocative and designed to lure Mexico into
Speaker:starting the conflict, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker:So, wasn't there something about the US refused to acknowledge
Speaker:Mexico's independence from Spain?
Speaker:I dunno about that.
Speaker:Maybe, I dunno.
Speaker:So where's the modern border run now?
Speaker:Runs across the top of Texas, Baja, California.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And then basically New Mexico is U us Yes.
Speaker:And then, Half of, of Texas is yellow.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, no, there, there's, okay.
Speaker:So Baja California is still part of Mexico.
Speaker:Yes, yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So the Alta California was taken over by the United States.
Speaker:New Mexico was taken over by the US and Texas was taken over by the us.
Speaker:The rest of it's still Mexico.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So, so Texas is actually, there's only half of Texas in there, cuz
Speaker:Texas is bigger now, I think.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Anyway, that wasn't that long ago.
Speaker:1845 US troops in the Philippines.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:All that was the 1890s.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So just wanna sort of put that out there in weeks and months to come.
Speaker:When we talk about Taiwan and I, I get confused with Hawaii.
Speaker:I'll just as a joke, maybe just bear that in mind.
Speaker:That's some of the stuff in America's been doing.
Speaker:Yeah, I think that the only thing that the Yanks can be accused of
Speaker:pinching was those territories from Mexico and also Hawaii, you know,
Speaker:because the Philippines, they did actually end up handing over to mm-hmm.
Speaker:You know, the, they ended up I can't remember the exact history of it, but
Speaker:there was a civil, where was a war and that sort of stuff that was fought
Speaker:with Americans against the Filipinos.
Speaker:But eventually, once that war was over, the Filipinos dropped their country back.
Speaker:And then Guam?
Speaker:Yes, sorry.
Speaker:So Guam.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Gotcha.
Speaker:That's another one I didn't know about.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Very handy for military base.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I'm wondering about the Caribbean.
Speaker:What's Puerto Rico?
Speaker:Cuz it's not even a state yet, is it?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:No, it's not a state.
Speaker:It's right.
Speaker:It American territory.
Speaker:It's an American territory.
Speaker:And then of course it's the US Virgin Islands.
Speaker:Yes, in American Samoa Granada, apparently, but yes, but, but apart
Speaker:from Mexico, Hawaii, Guam, yeah.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Puerto Rico.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I've said I have, what have the American ever done since before?
Speaker:Thes do not have, they are not completely bloodless in this thing.
Speaker:You know, they have made some disastrous foreign policy decisions in the past.
Speaker:And let's not even even start on Diego Garcia.
Speaker:No, exactly.
Speaker:You know what, what's Diego Garcia?
Speaker:What's that?
Speaker:British Indian Ocean Territory, which was a coconuts plantation.
Speaker:And effectively the, the, the locals who were imports anyway
Speaker:were left to look after themselves.
Speaker:And then the British colonial Administration kicked them out so that
Speaker:the US could build a military base there.
Speaker:Is this the one between India?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Is this in the Yes.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:It's the U us staging forward staging area for the Indian Ocean.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah, right.
Speaker:Last one.
Speaker:Donald Trump we mentioned 37.
Speaker:He is in a shitload of trouble.
Speaker:Oh, God, yes.
Speaker:He's, if he lives long enough, they've got it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It, it's one of those things.
Speaker:I haven't read the, I haven't read the indictment, but apparently
Speaker:according to all the all the American podcasts, I'll listen to Jack's.
Speaker:What's his surname?
Speaker:Snow, is it No.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:Jack, whatever his name is.
Speaker:The prosecutor and that sort of stuff that's been hired to actually.
Speaker:Pull him down.
Speaker:He has got it.
Speaker:He has got it nailed down beautifully.
Speaker:So they're saying that there is no rigg room at all for him.
Speaker:That, you know, even it doesn't matter that you've got a judge
Speaker:that's been appointed by him.
Speaker:It's one of those things that he cannot walk away from this.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:I've got a little clip about what Donald Trump actually I'll plat now.
Speaker:This when he was president in my administration, I'm going to
Speaker:enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information.
Speaker:No one will be above the law.
Speaker:And that was something else that was also said about on the scathing
Speaker:atheist I was listening to.
Speaker:They said that They said that he's actually hung hanged himself because him
Speaker:signing into law and that sort of stuff, what he did was allegedly to try and grab
Speaker:Hillary Clinton for her ah, email service.
Speaker:Very lawyers.
Speaker:He wrote Yeah.
Speaker:Email service.
Speaker:And that's now just all blown up in his face because he could have got away with
Speaker:it would've been, it would've been, he would've been charged as a misdemeanor,
Speaker:but now it's actually a full-blown felony.
Speaker:He's also apparently there's audio recording Oh yeah.
Speaker:Of him talking to somebody about something else at the time.
Speaker:But he said, oh yeah, I've got this document here I could show
Speaker:you, but it's classified and he's waving it in front of them.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Don't look too close.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Cause I'm not, I'm not allowed to show it to you, but quick just speak.
Speaker:And I think that's exactly what he's saying.
Speaker:I couldn't classify, I couldn't declassify it even if I wanted to.
Speaker:So they've got him on tape saying he couldn't declassify it.
Speaker:Cause he, he was no longer the president.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:You know, he has really cocked up.
Speaker:Terrible.
Speaker:So sad.
Speaker:Well, it's one of those things like, you know, they were, they
Speaker:were, they were expecting 50,000 people and that sort of stuff.
Speaker:Were gonna be at the front of the courthouse and that type of thing
Speaker:to actually welcome him back.
Speaker:But they barely had five or 10,000 people turning up there.
Speaker:And apparently was it that many half of them were apparently half of
Speaker:them were also arguing against him.
Speaker:So they're just saying that he's, he's he's going to lose, you know,
Speaker:if the Republicans do actually nominate him again, even though
Speaker:he is up against Sleepy Joe.
Speaker:And this time around, I think that they could actually put that nickname
Speaker:on him because he is very old.
Speaker:You know, he will lose.
Speaker:So that is one of the things that the Republicans are going to have
Speaker:to take a very hard, long look at themselves and that type of thing.
Speaker:And they're gonna have to find someone better than what they've got.
Speaker:Oh, DeSantis apparently.
Speaker:DeSantis is just as big a dickhead, but he's actually younger.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:A apparently Joe Biden finished off a speech the other day
Speaker:with God saved the Queen.
Speaker:Oh, did he?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:See that in itself, you know, we could always laugh about him having
Speaker:dementia and everything like that, but you've gotta actually start to wonder
Speaker:whether or not he has actually got it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, doesn't he know there's a key?
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:There's, there's photographs of his instructions allegedly, that
Speaker:have been taken, you know, on his lecter or whatever that says.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Open the, the greeting.
Speaker:Then you talk to this journalist, then you talk to this journalist,
Speaker:they're going to ask you this.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And at the end, turn left, walk to the stage, basically left, exit
Speaker:stage left and all this stuff, stuff.
Speaker:And have you, have you seen the latest RT Deep fake of all the,
Speaker:your European leaders in the American leader about Ukraine?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Oh, oh, look, what is it?
Speaker:Oh, basically it's deep fake that RT have made going oh yeah.
Speaker:What are we going to do about Ukraine?
Speaker:And they're, they're trying to think up new sanctions to enforce on Russia.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And basically saying that none of the, the sanctions are biting and
Speaker:therefore they don't what to do.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:But it was, it was more the, Hey, we've now got to the point where videos
Speaker:are being produced of world leaders saying things that they never said.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I see.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Send me a link to that.
Speaker:I'd be yeah, I'll see if I can find it.
Speaker:See it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Very good.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Well, there you go.
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