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Episode 334 - Google it, mate!
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Suburban Eastern Australia and environment that has over time
Speaker:evolved some extraordinarily unique groups of homo sapien.
Speaker:Despite the reputation of the Homeland, some are remarkably thin skin.
Speaker:Some seem to have multiple lifespans.
Speaker:A few were once thought to be extinct in the region.
Speaker:Others have been observed being sacrificed by the earth, but today we observe a small
Speaker:tribe akin to a group of miracles that gathered together a top, a small amount
Speaker:to watch question and discuss the current events of their city, their country, and
Speaker:their world at large let's listen keenly and observe this group fondly known
Speaker:as the iron fist and the velvet glove.
Speaker:Well, hello there.
Speaker:Dear listener, the iron fist and the velvet glove podcast episode 334.
Speaker:I have caused him Trevor AKA, the iron fist with me as always thankfully,
Speaker:on this occasion, especially Joe in capitals, the tech guy.
Speaker:Hi Joe.
Speaker:Hey evening, is Steve listener.
Speaker:It nearly didn't happen on here.
Speaker:Ensconced in a unit at a cooling Gatter, went through all the techie earlier today.
Speaker:It was all going well, even hooked up a television to be my second monitor.
Speaker:And then I went to use the whole damn thing, get a going about three
Speaker:quarters of an hour ago and just could not get this microphone to work.
Speaker:It was all hooked up.
Speaker:It should work unplugging, replugging, turning things off, updating drivers,
Speaker:and then eventually got onto Joe.
Speaker:He suggested that.
Speaker:Well, what's the first thing you would suggest to somebody to reboot.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And then a few other things and then just swap the microphone USB into a
Speaker:different USB port and that solved it.
Speaker:So here we are, it almost didn't happen.
Speaker:So if you're in the chat room, say, hello, it's a strange time
Speaker:to be doing a live podcast.
Speaker:I know, but Matthew and Greg are in the chat room and I
Speaker:mean, it's Easter Thursday.
Speaker:What are Joe, can you think of a better way to celebrate the resurrection?
Speaker:Well, I, I thought we were going to have Matthew mark,
Speaker:Luke and John in the chat room.
Speaker:Yes, indeed.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So if you're in the chat room, say hello sort of threw this on at the last minute.
Speaker:And Shay probably didn't even see my messages.
Speaker:Sorry, Shea.
Speaker:But Shay was invited and unlike two.
Speaker:Old guys.
Speaker:Who've got nothing better to do on Easter Thursday.
Speaker:Shay's probably out on the town with friends having a good time,
Speaker:rather than sitting in front of a computer doing what we're about to do.
Speaker:So so anyway, we'll try and keep you entertained.
Speaker:I mean, what's Joe, like you remember as a kid at Easter time with the TV, it
Speaker:was just reruns of Ben Hur and the robe.
Speaker:That was all it was on.
Speaker:That's probably all it's on tonight.
Speaker:Oh, I dunno.
Speaker:I'm watching the live stream of the Johnny Depp, Amber Hood case.
Speaker:That's been quite amusing.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So it's live streaming from America, UK where they east,
Speaker:east coast of the U S I K.
Speaker:So this is last nights or mornings?
Speaker:No, it's a local case.
Speaker:Ah, okay, rolling.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:That's sorted out the dogs, he gets boom.
Speaker:And the other one by now.
Speaker:I think she's got both of them.
Speaker:I just a life.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:There's a few years ago.
Speaker:Wasn't it?
Speaker:Six years ago.
Speaker:It was a while ago.
Speaker:How, how long?
Speaker:How long do little dogs last?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, Barnaby was sober enough to threaten them at that time.
Speaker:I don't think he could do it today.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Hey, what are we gonna talk about?
Speaker:Well, we gotta talk about this election happen, but if I was to leave it
Speaker:another week, because I think next week, I think I'm going to have
Speaker:cam and and he and Harrison talking about Jesus and whether he really is.
Speaker:And provided Easter, hasn't mucked up everything, then that's what will be on.
Speaker:So I figured I couldn't wait then another week before we started talking
Speaker:about this election and what's going on.
Speaker:And so I thought we'd give it a crack and we'll talk about it.
Speaker:So, so if you're in the chat room, feel free to make some comments.
Speaker:We'll probably have time to get through them because it's just going to be
Speaker:that sort of a podcast, I think so.
Speaker:Oh, and I've got a lot of clips as well.
Speaker:I've been mucking around with restream, they've got lots of
Speaker:stuff for us in terms of clips.
Speaker:So hopefully the audio works just as well.
Speaker:If you end up listening just onto the audio, but this might be one
Speaker:where if you've never watched the the YouTube or the Facebook video, then
Speaker:this might be one that's worth doing.
Speaker:So anyway Joe, do you want to kick off with any first impressions
Speaker:of this election so far, or just run into it, getting off your
Speaker:chest as somebody has noted.
Speaker:Labor are cowtowing to the Murdoch press and they shouldn't because the
Speaker:murder press really don't give a staff.
Speaker:They're never going to win them over.
Speaker:So they might as well go hard and just tell Murdoch to go, we and get bender.
Speaker:It's like, they're in an abusive relationship.
Speaker:It is where they keep thinking it's their fault.
Speaker:And if they just do something right, then they'll be nice to them.
Speaker:They they've almost, it seems like they've reached that point.
Speaker:Haven't they?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The rest of Australia is saying you've got to leave, give up.
Speaker:There's no hype.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So now I'm finding the whole election so far to be just a very interesting
Speaker:exercise in how our media is working really how it's not working, essentially.
Speaker:It's just a demonstration of it.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:So let's run through what sort of happened in the last week
Speaker:and we'll do it via some clips.
Speaker:So Scott Morrison kicked off with his campaign with, with his
Speaker:video of why I love Australia.
Speaker:Did you see that one, Jane?
Speaker:No, I'm pleased to say I haven't.
Speaker:Well, you're about to sit back and relax.
Speaker:You always have setbacks or you always have imperfect information.
Speaker:I mean, And they've been really tough.
Speaker:There's drought, there's floods, there's fire there's pandemic.
Speaker:There is now war.
Speaker:We're dealing with a world that is, has never been more unstable since
Speaker:the time of the second world war.
Speaker:We're dealing with an economy which has more moving parts and more risks,
Speaker:but indeed many, many opportunities that we have to see 40,000 people
Speaker:are alive in Australia died because of the way we manage the pandemic.
Speaker:700,000 people still have jobs and, and countless numbers of businesses
Speaker:that would have been destroyed.
Speaker:This is why as we go to this next level, What's firing me up.
Speaker:We're actually in a really strong position.
Speaker:I was at a trade school the other day in Brisbane, year 11 and 12.
Speaker:I asked them, I said, how many of you are going to start your own business
Speaker:more than half of their hands when
Speaker:Australia
Speaker:let's rise S Morrison liberal Canberra.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:I should've warned you to have a bucket handy.
Speaker:And the audio is impressive.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Very smooth look, a couple of things from that.
Speaker:The things that they claim as their greatest achievements or
Speaker:the things they don't control.
Speaker:Well, that had nothing to do with.
Speaker:But also I noticed he said, you know, there's drought,
Speaker:there's floods, there's fire.
Speaker:And I'm thinking, Hmm, maybe something's due.
Speaker:The climate is causing that.
Speaker:That's a time of great instability.
Speaker:No Scotty.
Speaker:It's not the end times.
Speaker:It's fucking climate change.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:This is the shamelessness of these guys, like given what he did during
Speaker:the fires, he should be embarrassed to talk about them and mentioned them.
Speaker:Gosh, I think he doesn't hold the hose.
Speaker:So obviously he's not responsible for yeah.
Speaker:So you, if you only listening to the audio on the vision there,
Speaker:heart of the clip showed his left hand with his wedding ring.
Speaker:Did you notice that at all?
Speaker:The dead, but I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Just a nod to family values of Scott Morrison, just loitering over his
Speaker:hand and his wedding ring, because of course Albany's, he's not married.
Speaker:So he wouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker:The other one thing, right at the end where he said, we wouldn't be
Speaker:caught in the prayer room either.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:The other thing he said was you know, I went to a school
Speaker:and you know, what was it?
Speaker:Nearly 50% of kids are gonna have their own business.
Speaker:I don't see.
Speaker:I is that suppose something was supposed to say, they're going to
Speaker:scrape as an independent contractor being a Sabi that's right.
Speaker:Because they can't get a job.
Speaker:I have to be an independent subcontractor to somebody.
Speaker:Cause I can't be employed on a proper wage or, you know, I spend a lot
Speaker:of time trying to convince people don't start a small business because
Speaker:a small business is really tough.
Speaker:And as the world gets more complex it's, it's a world with big business wins
Speaker:and big business has exclusive deals.
Speaker:Big business has monopolies.
Speaker:If you are a small business, you are just locked into a price war with every other
Speaker:small business, doing what you're doing.
Speaker:It's very hard to be unique and to get particular it's very hard to
Speaker:build a moat around your business and stop people copying you.
Speaker:So Coca Cola can stop people from copying it.
Speaker:They've got to spend a lot of money to be a new entrant into the soft drink market.
Speaker:I mean, red bull did it, but they spent a lot of money.
Speaker:But you know, you open up a coffee shop.
Speaker:Somebody else can open one up right beside you.
Speaker:It's very, very difficult in small business and we.
Speaker:Want a nation of small business, because all they can do is, is low value stuff.
Speaker:What we actually want is large industrial businesses that gain expertise and, and
Speaker:can make something and can create a niche and, and create a market for themselves.
Speaker:So this whole mantra of isn't that great.
Speaker:There's going to be these people in small business.
Speaker:I just think the poor buggers are going to be locked into a small business of a shop
Speaker:or a or something where we did say yes.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:But so as a, as an independent contractor on a business side, you've got all
Speaker:the risks of running a business.
Speaker:None of the benefits of job seekers.
Speaker:Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker:Small business is tough.
Speaker:So so yeah that was my first impressions of that very smooth of course, and just
Speaker:willing to cross over all of his mistakes.
Speaker:And also, you know taking claiming the 40,000 people saved from COVID.
Speaker:It was the state governments that introduced the lockdowns
Speaker:that he refused to introduce.
Speaker:Indeed.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So again, the greatest achievements are the things that are going in control.
Speaker:So yeah.
Speaker:Julia said Morrison's voice artificially lowered.
Speaker:He's won me over swimming.
Speaker:Julie.
Speaker:You've been on fire on Twitter, by the way.
Speaker:You really, you know, you've, you've got to come on this podcast at some stage.
Speaker:Julia, we'll get you on at some stage.
Speaker:It sounds like you've got a lot to get off your chest.
Speaker:So so you've been on fire on Twitter.
Speaker:I've been seeing you there.
Speaker:So yeah, so that was Morrison.
Speaker:And let me just see it, the other comments.
Speaker:Yeah, actually Matthew said he also noticed a difference in
Speaker:his voice, you know, Morrison.
Speaker:When you watch him at a lectern, he is channeling every Pentecostal minister
Speaker:he listened to in his lifetime.
Speaker:That's what he's doing.
Speaker:He's, he's being Mr.
Speaker:Fatherly advice at the lectern giving a Pentecostal sermon.
Speaker:That's that's the, the role that he slips into in those situations.
Speaker:And, you know, in the same way that the Pentecostal preacher doesn't get
Speaker:questioned he doesn't expect hard questions either and frogs in them off.
Speaker:So so yeah, when I see him up at a lectern, I see I see a Pentecostal
Speaker:minister jabbering away, so, so so that was his kickoff and labor in return.
Speaker:What was, what was labor's response?
Speaker:I'll play that one.
Speaker:And there's drought, there's floods, there's fire.
Speaker:There's pandemic.
Speaker:It's not a race.
Speaker:It's not a competition.
Speaker:That's not my job.
Speaker:That's not my job.
Speaker:So my job to do that with the recipe, Erickson, Australian
Speaker:labor party Cambra sums it up.
Speaker:Really.
Speaker:It does probably a smart move for the labor party ed to
Speaker:be showing Scott Morrison.
Speaker:But really you couldn't get Albo to say something to camera, to just, you know,
Speaker:you're spending money on advertising and you're giving people more of Scott
Speaker:Morrison really couldn't have, couldn't have got alibi to do something to camera
Speaker:and something more context, brilliant quote, which was oh, the, the, the media
Speaker:are complaining that elbows and unknown quantity, given that he's been in.
Speaker:Parliament since whenever it was the late nineties, early nineties, yes.
Speaker:Said if he's an unknown quantity, that's because the press
Speaker:have given him zero coverage.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And when you're going to pay for an ad, what do you do?
Speaker:You put Morrison in it as you're out?
Speaker:I don't know that that was the smartest move.
Speaker:So this of course was all overtaken fairly quickly on day one by the gotcha.
Speaker:Where the journalist asked him.
Speaker:If he could say off the top of his head, the cash rate and the reserve bank cash
Speaker:rate, and then another journalist asked.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:That's what we're asking the unemployment rate.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, everybody's probably seen it, but just for completeness and I think,
Speaker:cause I've got it here somewhere.
Speaker:Let me just Let me just see if I've got that one here.
Speaker:Actually this will be a new one.
Speaker:It will do it this I'll bet.
Speaker:I didn't know.
Speaker:It's coming up there with me
Speaker:and here we go.
Speaker:It's on the economy.
Speaker:We know that that's going to be a key focus for Australians when you know
Speaker:we're coming out of this pandemic.
Speaker:Can I ask you mentioned the reserve bank earlier.
Speaker:Do you know the official cash rate off the top of your head?
Speaker:Oh, look wait.
Speaker:We can do the old Q and I stuff.
Speaker:I bet.
Speaker:50 different, 50, 50 different figures.
Speaker:The truth is that what they have said the reserve bank is that over, over the coming
Speaker:period the reserve bank have said that there'll be multiple links, just writing.
Speaker:Regardless of who's in government, regardless of who's in government.
Speaker:What's the national unemployment, right.
Speaker:National unemployment rate at the moment is I think it's 5.4, sorry.
Speaker:I'm not sure where it is.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, his problem is he actually knows shame.
Speaker:He was feeling some shame at not knowing a figure.
Speaker:This is the beauty of Morrison.
Speaker:Who's shameless, who blusters on and just doesn't care.
Speaker:It's Alvin Easy's prob problem was that he actually cared a little
Speaker:bit that, that he didn't know it.
Speaker:Are you surprised that he didn't at least know the unemployment figure?
Speaker:I mean, I think he has other things to worry about.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I think his correct answer was no, I don't know.
Speaker:I leave that to the accountants to deal with.
Speaker:My job is setting policy.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:It would've been nice if he'd had some practice with these things.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I don't know what they do, but surely they must practice press conferences.
Speaker:What do you do when you get a question?
Speaker:You don't know what, what the price of bread or the price of milk or something.
Speaker:Like, I just, it just seemed to be a lack of preparation, not so much
Speaker:in memorizing the various economic statistics, but just preparation for
Speaker:dealing with the press conference.
Speaker:He sort of looked quite rusty for somebody who, and sort of
Speaker:unskilled being in front of cameras.
Speaker:No, seems to be the case.
Speaker:Doesn't it?
Speaker:So of course the thing about it is that they ask about the the cash rate.
Speaker:Lots of people later on said, oh, the cash rate was 0.1 of a percent or whatever.
Speaker:But it's actually the case that, well, we'll talk about later, but
Speaker:there's a target cash rate and there's a cash rate and the cash
Speaker:rate varies can vary every night.
Speaker:It's not actually set.
Speaker:So so the, the actual question was a dud question because it should
Speaker:have been what's the target catch rates set by the reserve bank.
Speaker:Otherwise you, unless you checked every morning, you wouldn't know what the cash
Speaker:rate real was from the previous evening.
Speaker:So, and lots of people sort of didn't understand that.
Speaker:So so but so that was, you know, and that's completely dominated the headlines,
Speaker:of course, in all of the Murdoch papers and also the ABC, all of the ABC indeed.
Speaker:So it's dominated everything.
Speaker:For such a small thing, the Murdoch papers obviously just loved it.
Speaker:Couldn't get enough of it.
Speaker:And I'm going to talk about the ABC and their involvement.
Speaker:But we then, you know, came to the greens leader, Adam Bandt and and
Speaker:he was asked a question, let me just find, or just bring this one up.
Speaker:So he was at a press conference just yesterday.
Speaker:I think it was.
Speaker:And another gotcha call.
Speaker:So really I got your question is really a question where the journalist is
Speaker:asking something where the journalist isn't actually seeking the answer,
Speaker:but trying to sort of expose that the question, you know, doesn't know something
Speaker:that they, that they should know.
Speaker:So this was Adam banned at the national press club for the greens.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:And just very quickly talking about object, backtracking exercises.
Speaker:You said in the speech that wages growth, wasn't going particularly well.
Speaker:What's the current WPI.
Speaker:Google at night.
Speaker:I mean, I am, I am sick.
Speaker:If you want to know, if you want to know why people are turning off politics it's
Speaker:because what happens when you have a, an election that increasingly becomes this
Speaker:basic fact checking exercise between a government that deserves to be turfed out
Speaker:and an opposition, that's got no vision.
Speaker:This is what happens like elections should be.
Speaker:A contest of ideas.
Speaker:Politics should be about reaching for the stars and offering a better society.
Speaker:And instead, and instead there's these questions that are asked about, can
Speaker:you tell us this particular step, or can you tell us that particular status?
Speaker:And those questions are designed to show that politicians are somehow out of touch
Speaker:and not representative of everyday people?
Speaker:Well, newsflash, most of the people in Canberra are on six-figure salaries, just
Speaker:passing time until they go out and work for their coal and gas corporations and
Speaker:get a six or seven figure lobbying job.
Speaker:Do you know what would be a better way of showing?
Speaker:Do you know what would be a better way of showing that politicians are in
Speaker:touch with the need of everyday peoples?
Speaker:It would be passing laws that lift the minimum wage.
Speaker:It will be making dental and mental into Medicare.
Speaker:It would be making sure that we've wiped student debt and build affordable.
Speaker:And when you've got wages growing at about two and a bit percent and inflation
Speaker:growing at about three and a half percent, that is part of the problem
Speaker:well, that was, yeah, it was well said.
Speaker:It was really well said.
Speaker:He wanted a lot of people over with that speech, I think.
Speaker:And it'll be interesting to see, is that an end to the, to the gotcha questions?
Speaker:I mean, almost certainly no, because they have no shame either.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, you know, you could, you would have seen advisors would
Speaker:probably all going, ah, that's what we should do it, trying to say it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So a really good response by a perfect response.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:I played the whole thing because at least he then got on to talking about
Speaker:some policy and, you know, we're going to talk about this during this podcast,
Speaker:but it's really hard to get any policy out of what's happening in the greens.
Speaker:We've got some interesting policies, so but I think core
Speaker:promises or non-core promises.
Speaker:That's the question?
Speaker:Well, I think as far as the greens are concerned, they are let me
Speaker:just try and find a, my notes here.
Speaker:Ah, yeah, let me just find it here.
Speaker:I've got it.
Speaker:So I'll mention them now because I can remember what the 12th may and
Speaker:actually, you know, what the vote compass, if you don't vote compass yet.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I remind saying, well, Paul was heading firmly towards the greens
Speaker:and he was very upset by that.
Speaker:And he surprised, and he was surprised I aligned with the greens, except for
Speaker:when it comes to science, interfering with environmental ism, where I
Speaker:follow the sides and they follow the environmental activism GMO.
Speaker:There were a couple of other things that they're very much
Speaker:not following the evidence.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:They're, they're known no to nuclear power.
Speaker:I'm willing to discuss nuclear.
Speaker:They're not willing to discuss nuclear.
Speaker:And I think this is ideological rather than fact-based.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Well you never going to agree with a party, a hundred percent
Speaker:and M and G to me, they seem the sensible vote in this next election.
Speaker:Vote one greens and then preference, labor, and put
Speaker:liberals and nationals dead last.
Speaker:Maybe some independence, depending on who they are up a bit higher.
Speaker:Although with some of those independence, even though they're ex liberals who claim
Speaker:to be independent, they, they have some fairly sort of strong neoliberal policies.
Speaker:Still.
Speaker:I, I saw I was going through the state petitions, the Queensland petitions.
Speaker:And there was one guy who was after the ability to recall politicians,
Speaker:which seemed a bit strange.
Speaker:So I looked him up and it turns out he'd stood as an independent
Speaker:start going through his bio.
Speaker:And he, he claims to be very much about democracy, but all about how his Christian
Speaker:values influence everything and how he thinks abortion was a wrong turn.
Speaker:And I'm thinking, yeah, so independence can be theocrats.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And I think they are some of these sort of ones in the
Speaker:liberal electorate, Stan, south.
Speaker:I've got some fairly strong liberal views as well.
Speaker:So it's a liberal, safe seat.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:They're certainly better than the LMP.
Speaker:Yup.
Speaker:Yup.
Speaker:So the other thing is in terms of secularism and what's the other one
Speaker:that labor seems to sell that, oh, just working people, working people seem to
Speaker:have been totally lost by labor as well.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:That just given up the big unions.
Speaker:So what's in it for the unions.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:Labor's looking out for, but the average person, I don't think.
Speaker:Well, there was that review of the minimum wage, which had decided not
Speaker:to go ahead with and there's no talk of any change to the taxation system.
Speaker:So the, the cuts that the Morrison governments coalition governments
Speaker:have proposed are all going to just keep sailing through.
Speaker:So so yeah, that very disappointing on a number of levels.
Speaker:It, they really are just going for, you know, we're not that dissimilar,
Speaker:but we're just not Scott Morrison with with an ICAC thrombin in maybe.
Speaker:I mean, when you, when you think of what are you going to get from labor that
Speaker:you wouldn't have got with Morrison, it would be, hopefully they're just not as
Speaker:shambolic in everyday decision making.
Speaker:They can eat.
Speaker:They are going to do something about climate change.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Something about that.
Speaker:I wouldn't really be relying on them a lot, but no.
Speaker:And less than nothing, I think less than paying them, although they've
Speaker:said they're going to keep the carbon credits or whatever it's called.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I, I'm not totally up to speed with that, but basically they pay people
Speaker:not to pollute and it turns out that the place, so they're paying them not
Speaker:to cut down forests that don't exist.
Speaker:And then selling those are the cheap price to oil and gas companies
Speaker:to offset their carbon emissions.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's sort of a bastardization of how it was supposed to occur.
Speaker:So, yes.
Speaker:But I'm just going to change the screen.
Speaker:I did have excellent.
Speaker:I can still do it just on the greens.
Speaker:So, you know, I've been watching it carefully.
Speaker:What's been going on with news reports, et cetera.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:The only way I could find out what the, in that Adam van speech, I
Speaker:thought, oh, it seems like the greens have got some interesting policies.
Speaker:Just have to go into the greens website to actually look them up.
Speaker:Like they you'll just never read about them in a mainstream media article scars.
Speaker:No, you have to, you have to go and look for it.
Speaker:So so, you know, week where it's all been about the horse race and who's winning,
Speaker:who's losing without looking at the policies, just in terms of the greens.
Speaker:I like these.
Speaker:So put in place a new corporate super profits tax of 40% on big corporations.
Speaker:Sounds good.
Speaker:Introduce an annual extra 6% wealth tax on billionaires and tax.
Speaker:The mega profits of big corporations earning over $100 million annually and a
Speaker:crackdown on multinational tax avoidance.
Speaker:And end to government handouts to billionaires and big corporations.
Speaker:So let me just this screen is going to annoy me.
Speaker:I'm going to shift this across to my other screen because it's
Speaker:just, how are they going to get political donations if they do that?
Speaker:Yeah, indeed.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So good question.
Speaker:The 6% tax, I like the idea of this 6% billionaires tax would
Speaker:only apply to the net wealth held by Australia's billionaires.
Speaker:So if you're not a billionaire, relax to stop the billionaires shifting
Speaker:as it's offshore, the tax will still apply to 90% of their original wealth.
Speaker:So this is just going to tax 122 Australian citizens, but it would
Speaker:raise $40 billion to pay for services.
Speaker:I think the hardest thing is Justifying what you're counting, you know, how
Speaker:do you know what's owned by them?
Speaker:It's going to be quite difficult.
Speaker:Is it, is it difficult?
Speaker:The Australian financial review comes out with the figure every year
Speaker:for it comes out as a guesstimate.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:We have a tax office should know something about what people own.
Speaker:Well, so the Panama papers and the what's there, the three leaks shows
Speaker:how much money that's hidden off shore that we just don't know about.
Speaker:True.
Speaker:But someone like Gina Rinehart and for that matter, Clive Palmer and
Speaker:forest, like the mining ones, it's pretty apparent how many shares
Speaker:you've got in your mining company.
Speaker:And that's the mining company on our stock exchange.
Speaker:We know how much you have, and we're going to tax you 6% on your wealth.
Speaker:You know, it, of course some cases will be more difficult than others, but I think
Speaker:some could be surprisingly easy to, to work out how much money people have got.
Speaker:So do you know, on the seven 30 report, apparently Lee sales was interviewing
Speaker:him and said something to the effect of, well, isn't this a funny way of doing it?
Speaker:Would it be more efficient if the billionaires could just give away
Speaker:their money to charity rather than it all going through the government?
Speaker:Counter-arguments if you, has she become a Neo liberal or something?
Speaker:One of the arguments I've heard against it is that the gates
Speaker:foundation is very very, very political in what he chooses to respond.
Speaker:These boss, these billionaires are altruistic and that's great and wonderful.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:It's not necessarily going to the places where it needs to go
Speaker:and the society wants it to go.
Speaker:It's going to things that either bring the billionaires press or the
Speaker:peaks, their personal interests.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:I mean, and their wealth has increased dramatically, so I'm not sure if
Speaker:I'm going to have the figure here.
Speaker:I actually, I do.
Speaker:So just since the pandemic Gina Reinhardt's wealth has increased
Speaker:from 16 billion to 36 billion just during the pandemic.
Speaker:Andrew Forrest from 13 billion to 29 billion and Clive Palmer
Speaker:from four and a half to 9.7.
Speaker:That's not urgent.
Speaker:Well, that's just gifted because we we haven't taxed these people enough.
Speaker:So what about Jerry Harvey?
Speaker:Yeah, I don't have the figure for Terry Harvey.
Speaker:But he's actually on the Green's website.
Speaker:He was using as an example, but I didn't, I didn't crab that one.
Speaker:So so I mean, after all there's a lot that, that socialist cash that he
Speaker:accepted quite happily and then kept, yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So he was on their list and there was a description of how much he'd
Speaker:received in terms of subsidies from the government and how much tax he paid,
Speaker:how much and how much had returned.
Speaker:So that is on the Green's website.
Speaker:If you're interested in the, in the details of, of Jerry Harvey, the, the
Speaker:Clive Palmer and he spending 70 million in this election and a hundred in the law.
Speaker:Yes hate now that's not altruistic.
Speaker:He's got to have seen at least that value back just in terms of the policies that
Speaker:the government has introduced to make it worth his while to spend that money.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:He clearly sees it.
Speaker:So so yeah, so the greens, that's at least some policy that the only
Speaker:other policy I've heard of in watching this media is really that Morrison
Speaker:says he's given up on an ICAC, any basically blames labor for not agreeing
Speaker:to the version that he came up with.
Speaker:And labor's coming out with a policy about some emergency GP clinics that
Speaker:they'll set up around the country.
Speaker:And they immediately copped flack from the AMA, who said, what are you doing?
Speaker:I mean, 'cause they could see them vendors having businesses affected by
Speaker:some government run GP clinic set up next door to them, you know, which the AMA
Speaker:as deep throat has mentioned, there's a conservative organization indeed.
Speaker:And it sounded like they hadn't run anything past the AMA probably because
Speaker:of a scare campaign or whatever.
Speaker:But just, it was a strange policy to release.
Speaker:I thought I mean, we have GP clinics.
Speaker:There are some 24 hour ones around, but we have hospitals and emergency.
Speaker:The idea is to take the stress off the emergency departments, right.
Speaker:Because people are turning up to emergency who are not urgent cases.
Speaker:And this is the problem because the gap payments, yeah.
Speaker:And people are going, I can't afford that.
Speaker:And so they're either hanging on and then turning up and emergency
Speaker:because they haven't seen a G.
Speaker:Or they're going to see emergency you for something that didn't
Speaker:need to go to emergency for.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Are they getting those at midnight though?
Speaker:When the GP isn't open, there's the idea of these 24 hour ones that people
Speaker:are people going with an ingrown toenail to the emergency at one in the
Speaker:morning that I just, I find that, jeez, I think that abuse of the emergency
Speaker:clinic is happening while GPS are open.
Speaker:So yeah, it's but the problem is the funding for GPS is the gap payments.
Speaker:The Medicare funding hasn't kept pace.
Speaker:And so virtually no in bulk bills anymore.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So put money into that.
Speaker:I agree with you, the bulk bill.
Speaker:That's what seemed to me to be where that money should go.
Speaker:So anyway, I'll do vote compass myself in a little while.
Speaker:I'm sure I'll end up somewhere down near the greens cause I did last time and
Speaker:yeah, that won't surprise me a little bit.
Speaker:Yeah, it did remind me how Paul was amazed that that was where he ended up.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:We were all over the shop here, so still just in terms of the media and
Speaker:how it's transpired during the week.
Speaker:So we had we had Morrison we had we had the GAF by Albanese and then
Speaker:we've had Adam band come back and just of course, the amount of coverage
Speaker:in the Murdoch papers over this has been just a deluge and meanwhile,
Speaker:there's any number of errors, mistakes, horrific things happening
Speaker:on the liberal national party side.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:Crickets, of course, people get frustrated by this, but you've got to stop thinking
Speaker:of the Murdoch press as a newspaper.
Speaker:You have to pick it up, look at it.
Speaker:I go, oh, it's just the liberal party newsletter.
Speaker:That's, that's what you're reading.
Speaker:That's what you should expect to see the infuriating part about all this
Speaker:Joe is, well, of course nine now and Fairfax have all leaned heavily in
Speaker:the same direction now with Peter's Costello as the, as the chairman.
Speaker:So let me just find here in my notes about the So this was an article I saw
Speaker:from a website called captured states.
Speaker:I don't know much more about it, but there's a link to it in the show notes.
Speaker:Australia's media ownership is among the most concentrated in the world.
Speaker:One study ranks Australia third, worst behind only the repressive
Speaker:state run medias of China and Egypt.
Speaker:This intense concentration means that only a few people control
Speaker:the messages that reach the vast majority of Australians each day.
Speaker:Long-term liberal politician, Peter Costello.
Speaker:He's still actively fundraisers for the liberal party.
Speaker:He chairs nine entertainment, which owns the Sydney morning.
Speaker:Herald the age, Australian financial review nines, television channels,
Speaker:various lifestyle websites, including pedestrian and drive and major talk
Speaker:back radio stations in several states.
Speaker:So the lurch or the editorial lurch of nines, newspapers towards the coalition
Speaker:since Castillo assumed control in 2016 has been noticeable and concerning,
Speaker:especially when it has resulted in partisan coverage of important issues.
Speaker:So what people noticed for sure was the age was very anti Dan Andrews during
Speaker:the pandemic and Victoria, very harsh coverage, which was in stark contrast
Speaker:to what the Sydney morning Herald in how it was fawning over Gladys Berejiklian.
Speaker:And it's hard heartbroken Requiem for her during a COVID-19 and ICAC journey.
Speaker:So so you've just got to realize that Castello in charge of that group have,
Speaker:have certainly lurched to the right.
Speaker:Many former news Corp journalists have been recruited to senior
Speaker:roles at the Costello's.
Speaker:In recent years, the executive editor of the age and Sydney
Speaker:morning Herald was James Chesil.
Speaker:He's a former staffer of liberal treasurer.
Speaker:Joe hockey Chesil has since been promoted to become managing
Speaker:director of publishing at nine.
Speaker:I mean, these people don't change their spots.
Speaker:I mean, if you've been a staff or of a liberal treasurer, you're
Speaker:not going to change your spots going to work somewhere else.
Speaker:I haven't Perth seven west media is another major Australian media empire.
Speaker:The chairman's, the company's chairperson.
Speaker:Carrie Stokes has been a longterm liberal party, donor and supporter Carrie's son.
Speaker:Ryan Stokes is seven west chief executive Ryan chose current liberal treasurer.
Speaker:Josh Frydenberg, to be the best man at his wedding in 2016.
Speaker:So that's Western Australia.
Speaker:And that's, that's what that talking about news Corp, which we'll get
Speaker:to now it's tabloid such as the daily Telegraph, Herald sun savagely
Speaker:attacked live governments in why is that surely border on defamation?
Speaker:They protect liberal leaders and regularly feature LMP puff pieces that
Speaker:lay there cannot even dream of receiving.
Speaker:NewsCorp, tabloids are free advertising, predicted barriers and
Speaker:fears of foot soldiers, all in one.
Speaker:Kevin Ronnie had that petition now, ABC and you see an article about Why the
Speaker:Murdoch rags in the UK were so keen to get rid of Britain or get personality AAU.
Speaker:And the answer was because the British prime minister will listen to him,
Speaker:but the EU wouldn't yeah, indeed.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:Brussels will not listen to him.
Speaker:So that was a big reason for him.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:So even the ABC's accused of watered down standards in recent years, prime
Speaker:minister, Scott Morrison's, handpick chairperson, ITA Buttrose has hosted
Speaker:liberal party fundraisers in the past.
Speaker:In recent days, the ABC attracted widespread anger for platforming a
Speaker:climate change denier from the Institute of public affairs on Q and a, without
Speaker:booking a climate scientist to appear on the same program, leaving false balance.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:A naive idea of balance has allowed outright lies to appear
Speaker:on ABC with increasing regularity.
Speaker:Let's see, so Albanese small, tight.
Speaker:According to this rider, Albanese small target strategy has
Speaker:been a product of necessity.
Speaker:The mate the media is most powerful figures are waiting with foaming
Speaker:mails for Albin, easy to shout even the slightest weakness to attack.
Speaker:I think this was written before the GAF over the cabaret.
Speaker:Compare the media is two week long front page hysteria about Kimberly
Speaker:Kitchings unfounded claims of labor bullying with the immediately suppressed
Speaker:bombshell allegations of racism and fraud against Scott Morrison by Michael Toke.
Speaker:Inexcusably tokes clients had not appeared on the front page of
Speaker:any Murdoch or Costello newspaper friendly Jordy's no, indeed.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:If library's discussed in the coverage for the election coverage will largely
Speaker:ignore the party's policy and focus instead on whatever Morrison has
Speaker:decided are Alvin easy, supposed personal weaknesses, and Marlin's long
Speaker:list of failures will be forgotten.
Speaker:You did see the Australian headline with his elbow gone, or his
Speaker:elbow an early onset Joe Biden.
Speaker:Yes, I did see that.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:I mean, we shouldn't be shocked.
Speaker:It shouldn't be, but it's just so blatant that you still a shot.
Speaker:Even after all these years of witnessing it, predicting it, knowing it was
Speaker:going to come just the shameless.
Speaker:I can still shock.
Speaker:I'm shocked.
Speaker:And I'm shocked, Joe.
Speaker:I thought, I thought I'd be a bit more last head publication implying that both
Speaker:Albanese and Joe Biden have Alzheimer's.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Look I'm going to apply the ABC one here.
Speaker:This was highlighted by Michael West media and, you know, we all know
Speaker:that the Murdoch and Castello press mouthpieces for the conservative side.
Speaker:If you're, if you're a journalist with warm blood on the ABC, you
Speaker:should be fully aware of that, that they will on their front pages, run a
Speaker:campaign in their own interests and.
Speaker:You just can't treat the front pages of these papers as, as indicative of what
Speaker:is important in Australia, but what does the fucking ABC do except repeat
Speaker:these headlines as if they actually are what's important in Australia and I'm
Speaker:going to play this the segment from an ABC mornings program of some sort here.
Speaker:It's just apply this one.
Speaker:You'll get the picture.
Speaker:Let's have a look at the morning's headlines online.
Speaker:And from the major news outlets around the country, the guardian
Speaker:online is leading with that campaign.
Speaker:Stumble from the labor leader where Anthony Albanese didn't
Speaker:know the jobless and interest rights off the top of his head.
Speaker:The age reports, the prime minister will ramp up his economic attack on Mr.
Speaker:Albanese today by making a big jobs promise.
Speaker:The Sydney morning Herald says the PM's job's announcement is
Speaker:pouncing on labor's rates for.
Speaker:The financial review debunks, a labor claim that the number of Australians
Speaker:in casual work has increased.
Speaker:Well, the courier mail says Anthony Albanese is failed.
Speaker:The economic test, Mr.
Speaker:Albanese didn't notice nearly 190,000 people have a job.
Speaker:That's the Adelaide advertisers take on the GAF yesterday.
Speaker:ABC news online is leading with a lethal stabbing at the Sydney Royal
Speaker:Easter show overnight after a violent brawl $56 million road to nowhere.
Speaker:The NT news says taxpayer money has been wasted on the gunpoint road.
Speaker:Upgrade, upgrade, rather that is now deemed on vulnerable.
Speaker:Don't count on me.
Speaker:The Herald sun's is Anthony Albanese.
Speaker:His bid for the top job has stumbled on day one, but mercury is featuring
Speaker:polling that suggests a quarter of voters.
Speaker:Do not know who the labor leader is.
Speaker:Economics not so Alvin easy.
Speaker:That's the headline in the history.
Speaker:Not so Elvin easy as the headline in the daily Telegraph, the paper is
Speaker:published and economic cheat sheet for the labor leader, as he attempts
Speaker:to reset his campaign and the west Australian also has a shopping list
Speaker:of key figures, just a run down at the bagging of labor by by vested interests.
Speaker:And that's the ABC for you?
Speaker:Terrible.
Speaker:It's it's mind boggling that.
Speaker:So one of the one of the journalists I think gave Scott Morrison a
Speaker:hard time during some interview, and then there was outrage the
Speaker:following day that how dare this?
Speaker:Why, why is this left-leaning trash supported by our taxpayer funds?
Speaker:Well, Andrew bolt has come out because Laura, yes, that was it.
Speaker:But that's the one you're thinking of.
Speaker:Let me find this, let me find this on my notes here.
Speaker:. Yes, Andrew bolt on sky.
Speaker:So so she ran a segment on ABC seven 30 report.
Speaker:It raised issues that are dogged the PM, including bushfires COVID-19 deaths in
Speaker:nursing homes, the government's failure to establish an anti-corruption body.
Speaker:Tingled said the issues, quote, raised questions about the prime minister's
Speaker:character and would leave an indelible mark on his prime ministership.
Speaker:Andrew bolt said taxpayer should not be paying for biased coverage.
Speaker:And this is Andrew on sky news, talking about Laura tingle on ABC.
Speaker:He said last night, the ABC around probably the most shameless Savage and
Speaker:biased smear of the prime minister in his government that I've ever seen.
Speaker:It ran for eight minutes claiming to be a review of the
Speaker:government's last three years.
Speaker:And if you believe the presenter Laura tingle, the government in those
Speaker:three years has been a complete and utter failure led by a bungling fraud.
Speaker:Sounds about right.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:If that's the impression you got was probably a fairly accurate eight
Speaker:minute report, I would have thought.
Speaker:So, so hang on how much money has news international got news Corp
Speaker:news limited, whatever they call it.
Speaker:Continue to get handouts.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And how much I don't know the exact figure, Joe, but I do
Speaker:know how much tax they've paid.
Speaker:New-school uncle, that's it?
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:So, so talking about these biased media pundits who are getting
Speaker:government hair nails yes.
Speaker:Indeed.
Speaker:He's cool.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I mentioned earlier about the cash rate, so yeah, and, and other
Speaker:journalists were leaping on here.
Speaker:There's a journalist Samantha maiden.
Speaker:And she said labor leader, Anthony Albanese has now refused twice to state
Speaker:the RBA cash rate for interest rates.
Speaker:Yes, it's a gotcha question.
Speaker:However, he should know it and ports to show a thing, showing the RBA cash
Speaker:rate, but at, at 0.1 of a percent, but as this guy points out Peter
Speaker:tulip, he's chief economist at the center of the independent studies.
Speaker:He said the 0.1 of a percent is the cash rate target.
Speaker:The correct answer was actually six basis points.
Speaker:So it can be pedantically correcting others, then you've got
Speaker:to get the answer right yourself.
Speaker:So that's sort of got your question really what Anthony Albanese should have said
Speaker:to the journalist asking that question.
Speaker:Was you talking about the target cash rate or are you talking about the
Speaker:overnight cash rate and what, what do you reckon the journalist sort of said, Joe?
Speaker:I dunno, which of course for anybody who's familiar with Monty Python and
Speaker:the holy grail will bring back memories in Monty Python and the holy grail
Speaker:early in the, in the movie king Arthur.
Speaker:With his aid who's, he's pretending to be on a horse and he's
Speaker:clopping sort of copping coconuts together to make a horse sound.
Speaker:And they arrive at this castle.
Speaker:These guys yell out, what are you doing with this cake?
Speaker:And that's where to get those from.
Speaker:And, and he said, oh, maybe a swallow drop them.
Speaker:And they said, well, how could I swallow?
Speaker:I do that.
Speaker:And there was a discussion about the flying velocity of a European versus a
Speaker:Asian swallow or something like that.
Speaker:And anyway, that was at the beginning of the movie.
Speaker:And then later at the end of the movie they're trying to cross this bridge
Speaker:and there's this like gatekeeper wizard type character who, who
Speaker:asked questions and well, who is it?
Speaker:What's it Tim, the engender Tinian charter.
Speaker:And the Knights are asked a question and in they, if they get it right, they can
Speaker:progress over the, over the the breach.
Speaker:And so.
Speaker:I'll apply a bit of that because I was reminded of this with this
Speaker:whole question of the cash rate.
Speaker:It is king of the Britain,
Speaker:the holy grail.
Speaker:What is the Ash speed?
Speaker:Velocity of an unladen swallow.
Speaker:Well, do you mean African or European swallow?
Speaker:I reckon it felt uneasy.
Speaker:It said give me the target cash, right cash.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:See what's going on tonight?
Speaker:A bit luck when can only train Joe.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Maybe we could set up a springboard microphone stand.
Speaker:Where if you, if you get the question wrong, you get launched.
Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:And if you've asked a question incorrectly or vaguely, then you get launched as well.
Speaker:If the question you can turn it back on you, which I think is
Speaker:what Adam Bandt did to that guy.
Speaker:He literally literally sent him off into the, into the never, never as well.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:So what's yeah, hang out in the chat room here.
Speaker:So Alison says, don't forget Bobcat Katter saying that we need
Speaker:to give all kids guns at school.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:You know, talking about policy.
Speaker:So that was while there's been a dearth of policy statements,
Speaker:that was one that we had.
Speaker:Thank you, Bob Catto.
Speaker:John Jack Haidt says the figures regarding the wealth increase.
Speaker:What's the figures within the Morrison government timeframe.
Speaker:Well, not sure Jack, but at least with Gina Rinehart, she doubled her
Speaker:wealth in just the pandemic years.
Speaker:So that was for her And this one from Alison last election, I got
Speaker:my mum to do a vote survey based on the candidates in our electorate.
Speaker:So it was very similar to vote compass.
Speaker:She swore black and blue.
Speaker:She was a liberal voter.
Speaker:She did the quiz and best matches the socialist Alliance candidate.
Speaker:I was not at all surprised by this.
Speaker:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker:And Julia is going to vote greens by looks of it.
Speaker:So that's in the chat room, keep them coming.
Speaker:If you've got comments to make, we will have the time this evening
Speaker:to get through some of them.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:But other things that I have to say, what are the videos that I have
Speaker:while I'm here, just to make sure I've got the relevant ones for that?
Speaker:Yeah, actually horse race, journalism.
Speaker:Cause that's.
Speaker:That's the other issue that's going on here, where we're not getting
Speaker:discussion about the policies at all.
Speaker:We're just getting discussion about mistakes, errors.
Speaker:Who's winning.
Speaker:How can ma how can Albanese lose this?
Speaker:How can Morrison win it?
Speaker:We're not getting the contest of ideas that MBA was talking about, and that
Speaker:the most disappointing thing about this is where not just not talking
Speaker:about ideas about how we should change this country in different directions.
Speaker:What's going to be good and what's going to be bad for us.
Speaker:We've just got these banal statements where essentially Morrison will say
Speaker:labor, can't be trusted with money.
Speaker:They've got no experience.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:I'll keep you safe against the Chinese and the Russians and the boat people
Speaker:and, but not against climate change.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:And, and, and that's it.
Speaker:And, and all labor's saying in return is I'll give you an,
Speaker:we'll give you an ICAC and we'll throw a bit of money at Medicare.
Speaker:And, but otherwise we're not going to change much at all.
Speaker:What sounds of it?
Speaker:Adam band at least had something.
Speaker:So, so yeah, we're in the horse race journalism here is a bit
Speaker:of an explanation of that.
Speaker:Oh, you didn't evidence here too.
Speaker:Well, horse race journalism is sort of a reusable model for how to
Speaker:do campaign coverage in which you focus on who's going to win rather
Speaker:than what the country needs to see.
Speaker:By electing a prime minister and it's easy to do because you can kind of reuse it
Speaker:sort of like a Christmas tree every year.
Speaker:And it's requires almost no knowledge either.
Speaker:And it it's kind of imagined the campaign as a sporting event, right.
Speaker:And everything that happens in the campaign can potentially
Speaker:affect the outcome.
Speaker:And so you can look at it as how is it going to affect the horse race.
Speaker:And every day you can ask who's ahead.
Speaker:And what is their strategy?
Speaker:And I think this perspective appeals to political reporters because it kind of
Speaker:puts them on the inside, you know, looking at the campaign the way the operatives do.
Speaker:By the way, I'm told that you actually have a program here on Sunday morning
Speaker:called the insiders, et cetera.
Speaker:And the insiders are the journalists.
Speaker:That's remarkable.
Speaker:The nature of basically what you've just described there is basically
Speaker:what modern cat, the day, the day to day reporting of modern campaigns,
Speaker:what would be an alternative?
Speaker:Well, an alternative model might start with what are the people in Australia
Speaker:want this campaign to be about?
Speaker:What are the issues they want to see the candidates discussing and then to ask each
Speaker:day, well, how did we do in advancing the discussion of the citizen's agenda today?
Speaker:Was it ignored?
Speaker:Was it addressed?
Speaker:Was it demagogue was was it slided?
Speaker:And if the journalists helped citizens get their agenda
Speaker:addressed during the campaign, they would be performing something.
Speaker:That's actually a very important, a role that's very important for them
Speaker:to do, but instead, if they want to simply become the chroniclers
Speaker:of the inside game and tell tele.
Speaker:From the point of view, sort of the, of the professional
Speaker:strategist who's doing better.
Speaker:Well, they're going to in a way, join the political class and
Speaker:that's the attraction of the horse.
Speaker:I think that I think that partly explains the ABC journalists.
Speaker:I mean, I understand that the Castello and Murdoch journalists might want to do
Speaker:something, but they know they're just not going to fly with the bosses in charge.
Speaker:You would have thought if you pushed a little bit in the ABC, you
Speaker:could get some talk about policy.
Speaker:But
Speaker:I, I think they're lazy most of them, and they want to take that easy insider
Speaker:horse race view, and it's a shame we're just, we're not getting policy.
Speaker:So it's a sad situation, Joe.
Speaker:And so.
Speaker:This leads to, yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:You got up on the screen, this, the cave Plato's cave.
Speaker:This is what I think of.
Speaker:Like we're in a tough situation where our as a civilization, not just Australia
Speaker:around the world where we've reached the point where information can be so freely
Speaker:exchanged, where we should be just booming ahead in progress, but because of the
Speaker:misinformation perpetrated by people in charge, we're actually going backwards.
Speaker:And and so this reminds me of the story of Plato's cave.
Speaker:I've got a picture up on the screen for those who are watching the
Speaker:live stream or watching the video.
Speaker:So Plato Plato begins by having Socrates ask gloss on Glaucon to imagine a
Speaker:cave where people have been imprisoned from childhood, but not from birth.
Speaker:These prisoners are chained so that their legs are next or fixed, forcing
Speaker:them to guide at the wall in front of them and not to look around at the cave
Speaker:each other or themselves behind the prisoners is a fire between the fire.
Speaker:And the prisoners is a raised walkway with a low wall behind which people
Speaker:walk, carrying objects or puppets of men or other living things.
Speaker:The people walk behind the wall.
Speaker:So their bodies do not cast shadows for the prisoners to see, but the objects
Speaker:they carry do just as puppet, showman, have screens in front of them, which they
Speaker:work, their puppets, the prisoners cannot see any of what is happening behind them.
Speaker:They are only able to see the shadows cast upon the cave wall in front of them.
Speaker:Socrates suggests the shadows are reality for the prisoners because
Speaker:they've never seen anything else.
Speaker:They do not realize that what they see are shadows of objects
Speaker:in front of a fire, much less.
Speaker:These objects are inspired by real things outside the cave, which they do
Speaker:not see the fire or human made light.
Speaker:And the puppets used to make the shadows are done by the artists Plato.
Speaker:However, indicates that the fire is also the political doctrine
Speaker:that is taught in a nation state.
Speaker:The artists use light and shadows to teach the dominant
Speaker:doctrines of a time and place.
Speaker:Also few humans will ever escape the cave.
Speaker:This is not some easy task and only a true philosopher with decades of preparation
Speaker:would be able to lead the cave up.
Speaker:The steep incline.
Speaker:Most humans will live at the bottom of the cave and a small few will be the
Speaker:major artists that project, the shadows with the use of human mode light.
Speaker:So that's, you know, you can see a metaphor with our current
Speaker:times with, you know, we're being given very limited information.
Speaker:Only what we can see.
Speaker:Some people I feel are.
Speaker:I like to think understanding what's happening in the true world, but others
Speaker:are stuck looking at the cave wall, trying to make sense of the shadows.
Speaker:Play-Doh then suggests that one prisoner is freed.
Speaker:It would hurt his eyes and he would escape by turning away to the
Speaker:things that he was able to look at.
Speaker:Suppose then so much a dragon by force, the prisoner would be angry and in pain.
Speaker:And this would only worse than when the radiant light of the sun
Speaker:overwhelms his eyes and blinds him slowly, his eyes adjust gradually.
Speaker:He can see eventually he's able to look the stars and moon at night until
Speaker:finally he can look upon the sun itself.
Speaker:Only after he can look straight at the sun.
Speaker:Is he able to reason about it and what it is?
Speaker:Plato continues saying that the freed prisoner would think
Speaker:that the world outside the cave was superior to the world.
Speaker:He experienced in the cave and attempt to share this with the prisoners remaining
Speaker:in the cave, attempting to bring.
Speaker:Onto the journey he had just injured.
Speaker:He would bless himself with the change and pity.
Speaker:The other prisoners, according to Plato, the returning prisoner, his eyes
Speaker:have become accustomed to the sunlight would be blind when he reenters the
Speaker:cave just as he was when he first exposed was first exposed to the sun.
Speaker:The prisoners, according to Play-Doh would infer from the tree from the returning
Speaker:man's blindness, that the journey out of the cave had harmed him and that they
Speaker:should not undertake a similar journey.
Speaker:I conclude that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach
Speaker:out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave.
Speaker:Sounds like the anti-vaxxers it's an interesting thought experiment
Speaker:and there's certainly some.
Speaker:Get me thinking.
Speaker:Yeah, I can see some, some of that right now.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's an interesting one.
Speaker:Those who become enlightened, who want to go back and say, Hey, you guys it
Speaker:could almost be killed by the ones who are remaining sad and depressing.
Speaker:Sorry about that.
Speaker:But that was Play-Doh.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:I was watching an Rushton and she was basically saying that, of course
Speaker:the labor party has a reputation of not being able to manage money.
Speaker:And it does have a reputation of that.
Speaker:It does.
Speaker:And I was my boss from Victoria was up and we were driving around visiting
Speaker:some customers and stuff the other day.
Speaker:And just, I don't know.
Speaker:Actually I'm just going to try and bring up this.
Speaker:No, I'm not gonna be able to.
Speaker:And I was talking to her cause she was saying something similar about,
Speaker:or course labor's terrible with money.
Speaker:And I said, well, it was about tax labor, you know, highest taxing the other tax,
Speaker:everything I said, you realize, you do know who was the highest tax in government
Speaker:in the last 40, 50 years, don't you?
Speaker:And she said, oh no, you're going to tell me it was John Howard.
Speaker:Are you?
Speaker:I go, yes, it was actually, if you look at the tax taken as a percentage of GDP,
Speaker:the Howard government was was indeed the highest because we had minerals.
Speaker:Boom, indeed.
Speaker:So, you know, there wasn't actually some excuse for it.
Speaker:Because of the mining boom minerals, boom meant there was a huge tax take indeed.
Speaker:But if you want to know about.
Speaker:Middle-class welfare D they did the big end of town and ruined the
Speaker:budget for years to come because these things become entrenched.
Speaker:But so say there'll be three things.
Speaker:We'll, I'll talk about it.
Speaker:It still is about the economy stupid.
Speaker:Like this is what bill Clinton famously said.
Speaker:You know, there, all these talk about social justice issues and other things,
Speaker:and he said, it's the economy stupid.
Speaker:It was about people just care about the economy.
Speaker:And this is where labor has to drive home.
Speaker:More of the message that if you just want to look at the figures,
Speaker:highest tax in government was the Howard Costello government.
Speaker:It actually dipped during the Rudd and Gillard years, and then increased
Speaker:again during the coalition years.
Speaker:Tax number means nothing.
Speaker:Who's paying the burden of it.
Speaker:Is it the low end of town or is it the top end of town?
Speaker:Yeah, indeed.
Speaker:But you, you know, if they, if the people won't even want to
Speaker:get into the complicated story, you can just talk about okay.
Speaker:Total tax.
Speaker:Here's the figure.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Shut up.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:You want to talk about the details of where it went or fine?
Speaker:Because it's still not a good look, but so so the first one is the total tax rate.
Speaker:Then of course, they'll talk about Australia's debt and you've then only
Speaker:got to look at what's happened to Australia's gross debt under the liberals.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Now.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:It went up under Rudd global financial crisis, pumped money in the economy, but
Speaker:he'd been left for dead by the Morrison.
Speaker:Frydenberg government.
Speaker:So again, you can say, look, if you're worried about debt and debt being repaid,
Speaker:then it's the Morrison and Frydenberg government that has got us into this mess.
Speaker:And didn't the Rudd spend actually leads to increased GDP, the economy starting
Speaker:and more money coming back in the end.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:If you want to look at where the money where there's all sorts of
Speaker:great arguments, but just in terms of basic figures who got us into
Speaker:this mess with the debt, it was the Morrison Frydenberg government.
Speaker:And then people will say to you look okay, but Hey, it was a
Speaker:pandemic place was shut down.
Speaker:And you know, not for the first five years of his government.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But indeed, but you can also point to Another statistic, which is
Speaker:the, the increase in our debt for the five years, from 2013 to 2018.
Speaker:So this is the five years prior to the pandemic.
Speaker:And if you line up the 36 RECD countries and who was paying back debt and
Speaker:who was building up debt Australia had the second worst performance.
Speaker:The only one worse was Sheila.
Speaker:And that's just a fact that during the five years prior to the
Speaker:pandemic, the coalition conservative governments increased our government
Speaker:debt to be the worst in the GDP, in that period, other than chiller.
Speaker:So now MMT says that somebody is going to be in debt and it's either.
Speaker:The people in the population or it's going to be the government.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So when the government gets yourself out of debt, that just
Speaker:means private debt goes up.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And private debt.
Speaker:Isn't that a good thing?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So actually increasing debt, increasing government debt is a good thing, but
Speaker:the problem is if you're doing it to pay you rich mates out to help the poorest
Speaker:people out, it's not a good thing.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So do this in response to people who say our labor always taxes too high.
Speaker:Well, the response is this is a board figure.
Speaker:No they don't.
Speaker:And if the, if the argument is are, and you know, labor always gets us
Speaker:into debt and never pays back the debt, they're not good money managers.
Speaker:Well, just give him the ball and figure.
Speaker:Those sorts of people are highly unlikely to be talking about modern
Speaker:monetary theory though, Joe, I think so.
Speaker:Cause yeah, just the basic numbers are great for labor in that sense.
Speaker:That's why I'm saying that I'm losing the last election was the best thing that
Speaker:could happen to the labor party in the term for the next 50 years, because could
Speaker:you imagine Joe, like labor would have had to have done the same spending, hopefully
Speaker:better targeted, but let's face it.
Speaker:It would have been a lot of spending and they would've been just crucified
Speaker:for the next five decades because they were because of the GFC.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Now at least there is a very good counter argument to say, Hey, you guys did it to.
Speaker:Shut the fuck up, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, it's, it's, it was incredible about how socialists
Speaker:Turnbull was not turtles.
Speaker:Scotty was as soon as the pandemic started, but then of course they went,
Speaker:how can we wrote this for our mates?
Speaker:I know, rather than paying the people who are unemployed, we'll pay the people who
Speaker:might have employed them to not sack them.
Speaker:And then they made it anyway.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So as the campaign progresses, I'm really keen to see, is there a labor
Speaker:party spokesperson who, when this topic comes up, can say it succinctly
Speaker:and well and convincingly and make some undecided people go, oh, I
Speaker:didn't know that is that right?
Speaker:Like, is there anyone there who.
Speaker:Who can do it because sure as eggs, when they appear on sky news or on the
Speaker:Murdoch or on Castello stuff, at some point, somebody will say, oh, you guys
Speaker:have a problem with economic management.
Speaker:Can somebody please on the labor side at that point, just coming out
Speaker:and do an Adam bans and just explain something really well in 30 seconds and
Speaker:push back, let me know if you see it.
Speaker:It's about controlling the conversation.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:And the people they've got just don't seem to be able to control the conversation.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:It's about selling.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:In Canada.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I think you can be, if you see a clip where he doesn't Alison, let me know.
Speaker:So I think he can, but let's wait and see.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:Other topics are George Christianson.
Speaker:So you hear what he's doing, John.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Do you see the article I sent you?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:The one that said, Hey, he's, he's retired from politics.
Speaker:Oh no.
Speaker:He hasn't these kind of Stanford one notion.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:But apparently the reason he's standing for one notion is that if
Speaker:he leaves parliament under his own of his own volition, he gets no payout.
Speaker:But if he stands and is a sitting member of parliament or a candidate,
Speaker:who's a member of parliament and loses his seat, he gets a
Speaker:hundred thousand payout, correct.
Speaker:A six figure payout resettlement allowance just by standing for
Speaker:one nation, he'll get a payout.
Speaker:So I think he's going for the third spot in the one nation Senate
Speaker:ticket, I think is what it is like.
Speaker:It's clearly a hopeless case that he will never.
Speaker:When a sentence spot being in that position on the Senate ticket.
Speaker:And yeah, there's this resettlement allowance.
Speaker:So you qualify if you have retired in voluntarily through defeat at an election,
Speaker:including defeat and an election where he, or she has campaigned to be elected to
Speaker:represent a different electoral division or to the other house of parliament.
Speaker:So because he's currently in the house of reps, isn't it?
Speaker:So so the F so yeah, he's going to be defeated in another house of parliament,
Speaker:but there's be this resettlement allowance, which will be worth somewhere
Speaker:around a hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker:So
Speaker:nice.
Speaker:If you can get.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And, you know, Pauline Hanson will claim.
Speaker:She hates politicians and she's for the working man and all the rest of it.
Speaker:And stupid people will believe her and, and say, she's not
Speaker:like those other politicians.
Speaker:And meanwhile, she's enabling this.
Speaker:Meanwhile, she's enabling this.
Speaker:They'll talk about experience, of course.
Speaker:And I've never heard her say that she, she thinks she's a waste of oxygen.
Speaker:I still can't believe how nervous she is in a voice.
Speaker:After all these years, you would have thought she would have settled into being
Speaker:able to speak in front of the camera, but it just seems to be an excruciating
Speaker:experience for her every time she has to front the camera, it must be horrible.
Speaker:Like just, you can feel the unease in her, the lack of confidence, and
Speaker:I have to do it so often for so long.
Speaker:Let's be awful.
Speaker:They'll talk about our elbow is inexperienced.
Speaker:And I saw this thing on Twitter by somebody said elbow in 2007 became
Speaker:Australia's first infrastructure minister and became leader of the lower house
Speaker:that was in 2007 Morrison in 2007.
Speaker:Cheated his way into Powerment after losing pre-selection to Michael Toke,
Speaker:82 votes to eight allegedly and yes.
Speaker:So this other tweet by the sky, Dave city-wide chaos, he said, get
Speaker:Scott Morrison really get beaten.
Speaker:ADT votes to eight in a pre-selection vote, hard to believe this is factual.
Speaker:Does Toke expect us to believe this those voting would have
Speaker:known Morrison personally?
Speaker:What were those eight people thinking?
Speaker:So I thought that was good.
Speaker:Oh, and you know, when you want to talk about economic management, then the other
Speaker:one to talk about is the submarines.
Speaker:$5 billion.
Speaker:Nothing.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:His it's important for Australia's security.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Here's penny Wong at some Senate estimates committee or something like that.
Speaker:So that is still underway by our defense science and technology group,
Speaker:for instance, doing studies and those sorts of funds still on the C
Speaker:1000 project around future submarine capability is still in the say 1000
Speaker:it's funded out of that provision.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Signed
Speaker:up to five and a half, 540.
Speaker:For instance, Senator is part of what was always spoken about as the 89 or
Speaker:the ADA billion-dollar provision that it all part of it, the total vision.
Speaker:So it takes best will be up to up for five and a half billion dollars
Speaker:in submarines that don't exist.
Speaker:The final negotiated settlement will be within that price within that
Speaker:ouch five and a half billion dollars for nothing, but it's not their money, but
Speaker:any of the great economic managers imagine what labor could have done it must've they
Speaker:would advice a different that's the beauty of Morrison he could shamelessly say.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:But imagine if labor do mean in charge, what are they?
Speaker:10 billion.
Speaker:Well, only flavor thought that we needed submarines.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Did you look at that video?
Speaker:I mean, obviously it was in branch.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Yeah, I, I didn't persevere with it cause it wasn't great.
Speaker:Sorry, not speak French, Joe.
Speaker:No, no, I, I thought it was strange that you were asking for the link, but so this
Speaker:was a French, former spy, former head of a division of the French space agency.
Speaker:Talking about the submarine contract and saying that they should have
Speaker:seen the writing on the wall.
Speaker:They were arrogant, the French.
Speaker:This is that a government.
Speaker:I don't know, an Australian government report had said that things weren't
Speaker:going well and that the writing was on the wall and they should have at least
Speaker:had a, a plan to re to, to fix that.
Speaker:And it not be a total surprise.
Speaker:But saying that the French weren't allowed to sell us nuclear site.
Speaker:Because the non-proliferation treaty had expressly forbidden nuclear states to sell
Speaker:nuclear technology to non-nuclear states.
Speaker:Yup.
Speaker:Yup.
Speaker:And that effectively, that treaty has now been torn up by the
Speaker:Americans and the Brits offering us nuclear powered submarines.
Speaker:So that's interesting at one one does what other states are going to get
Speaker:given submarines by Russia slash China?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And saying that there was a change in requirement, operational requirements
Speaker:that Australia would now require subs to be able to sit in the China sea on
Speaker:the station and attack Chinese vessels.
Speaker:Whereas the current submarines would only be able to get there and then
Speaker:we'd have to turn around and come.
Speaker:Yup.
Speaker:Yup.
Speaker:They are so hairy chested about the military, these guys it's, it
Speaker:should be embarrassing for them.
Speaker:Here's one, a picture of the Tim Wilson, just in his army fatigues in front of,
Speaker:in front of one of these tanks that I think we're sending to the Ukraine.
Speaker:Anyway, somebody doctored the picture on this particular one.
Speaker:I don't know if you can see it, but it says a mobile
Speaker:armored prayer room, all ranks.
Speaker:So yeah.
Speaker:That's yeah, so hairy chested on this stuff.
Speaker:Just on let me just see here, the yeah, and that just have a fascination with
Speaker:the military in general and very pro.
Speaker:SIS of course here.
Speaker:And O'Reilly makes the point that we've got the daily grind of the Ben Robert
Speaker:Smith court case, exposing the sadism and psychosis of the SIS simultaneously
Speaker:running alongside a reality TV series, celebrating the essay and sprained.
Speaker:So I, I found it interesting.
Speaker:There was another different discussion that came up about East Timor and
Speaker:saying that the Australian SAS had behaved in East Timor in a way that the
Speaker:New Zealand SAS had reported up their ranks and that New Zealand, military
Speaker:lawyers had opened an inquiry into potential human rights violations.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So no, I think they found that the Australian SAS ha.
Speaker:Committed war crimes, right?
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And we just didn't hear about it because it was New Zealand or I don't
Speaker:know, but it seems to be an ongoing problem of, unaccountability that
Speaker:other countries don't have the problem.
Speaker:So the other countries have their own SAS and don't have this problem.
Speaker:It seems to be peculiar to Australia.
Speaker:I've got the answer here, Joe, in this next clip here.
Speaker:Here's the answer for our politicians fascination with the SAS.
Speaker:Here we go.
Speaker:No, our role has changed substantially since that time.
Speaker:Now that we are here primarily to act as a masturbatory aid
Speaker:for various backbench MPS.
Speaker:Yes, I'm afraid to say it seems that a lot of today's parliamentarians are quite
Speaker:unable to achieve sexual gratification without fantasizing about DSAs.
Speaker:It's simple, Joe, that's it?
Speaker:I thought it was also reflects his fixation and oranges.
Speaker:Ah, there we go.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:What else do I want to get off my chest here in this particular?
Speaker:Yeah, we mentioned labor in terms of policies, labor decided to drop an
Speaker:independent review of the job seeker payment and refuse to increase it.
Speaker:Thanks a lot labor party and quite thought something relevant, not to the
Speaker:election, but the woman in America.
Speaker:Did you see who got charged with murder?
Speaker:For the abortion.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Is that right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Under the new abortion laws.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, we think things are bad here, but then that extra bit worse over there
Speaker:because they've had a headstart on us, but we're heading in that direction.
Speaker:I was about to say gifts got a year, 10 years.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Hey, I forgot to mention satanic wise.
Speaker:So not this Easter Saturday, but the following Saturday where I'm doing a
Speaker:thing with the news of temple of Satan at the gold coast, at that cultural center
Speaker:where we're going to reclaim the demons.
Speaker:Did I mention that last week, Joe?
Speaker:I can't say you did.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So if you're free not this Saturday, but next Saturday, which would be
Speaker:the let's get the date right here.
Speaker:That would be Saturday the 20.
Speaker:Third at the gold coast hauteur center.
Speaker:That's where that where that lady was since the demonic spirits that
Speaker:she as the spiritual advisor for the Lord mayor decided to drive them out.
Speaker:So we're going to meet at the coffee shop there at one o'clock and at two
Speaker:o'clock, we will re summon the demons on behalf of Satanist at the gold coast.
Speaker:So that's that.
Speaker:And then let's say, if you're interested, please get onto the news
Speaker:attempt with Satan Facebook page.
Speaker:There's an event there and let us know that you can come.
Speaker:And then you heard about the prayer room that was down
Speaker:there at the gold coast, Joe.
Speaker:So where the spiritual advisor had set up a prayer room in the
Speaker:council chambers and I had not.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So she's, she's done that has that the same as the federal
Speaker:parliament prayer room?
Speaker:I don't know, John.
Speaker:But I thought to myself, you know what?
Speaker:I'm on the gold coast for 10 days.
Speaker:I think I'd like to say a prayer.
Speaker:So I, I reached out to the council by their websites, send an email
Speaker:and asked how I could go about booking the room for a prayer.
Speaker:And I've received a word back from the Lord Ms.
Speaker:Spiritual advisor.
Speaker:She phoned me this afternoon.
Speaker:Excellent.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:The room is free and available.
Speaker:I just she has to have the names of the people gonna attend.
Speaker:Cause we get a land yard just to escort us into the building
Speaker:cause it's a council building.
Speaker:So so we need our names and she was curious about what
Speaker:organization we might be from.
Speaker:And I was a bit cagey on that, but I will have to disclose
Speaker:it earlier later this week.
Speaker:So anyway, Friday so not tomorrow good Friday, but Friday the 22nd,
Speaker:if anyone's available and would like to join me in prayer, the council
Speaker:chambers at 10 30, 10 o'clock for 10 30 start, let me know, send me a message.
Speaker:Go to the website, iron fist, velvet, glove.com to you and send a direct
Speaker:message or get in contact with the Noosa temple of seitan and join me as we now
Speaker:you're not going to have to get up your name because I have to get a lanyard for
Speaker:you and join me as we are led by, well, it's just gonna be a prayer, Joan don't,
Speaker:you know, just going to keep it clean.
Speaker:It's going to be praying.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So yeah, so I do need some people for that.
Speaker:So if you potentially able to be there Saturday, And join me, let me know.
Speaker:Cause I need a few names to put on a list and we'll see what happens.
Speaker:So that will be interesting, Joe, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I forgot to mention that.
Speaker:Should put that at the top of the show.
Speaker:Yeah, lots of people have gone to bed already.
Speaker:Yeah, it's probably yeah.
Speaker:Sh chaise not with us, of course.
Speaker:And it was a late, so she's just got off a plane.
Speaker:Did she say she just got off a plane?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Well, I'm thinking she, as you heard last time that she's resigned
Speaker:from Quantas, dear listener, and you know, she's been barely gone.
Speaker:What's that?
Speaker:I was going to say.
Speaker:Nope.
Speaker:I read the messages just got off a plane, so she, sorry, just landed.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So I think the place has fallen into rack and ruin with Shay's leaving because
Speaker:you've seen the queues at airports.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So according to Alan Joyce he says the miss, the problem is that
Speaker:our customers are not match fit.
Speaker:Did you hear that?
Speaker:No, but I see that apparently they have to take out their assholes.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:So aerosols that's it.
Speaker:So, so the problems at the airport are that the customers are not match fit.
Speaker:It's taking them too long to get their laptops out of their
Speaker:carry on luggage and other stuff.
Speaker:And that's the cause of the delay we're going to get match fit again.
Speaker:And that's probably why he's the highest paid airline executive in the world.
Speaker:Cause this.
Speaker:Golf Joe, you wouldn't have watched the masters golf at all?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:The winner, there's a guy called Scotty Scheffler and he's got a new caddy.
Speaker:So he picked up his new caddy recently when Scotty Scheffler heard that bubble
Speaker:Watson and catty, Ted Scott had parted ways in the fall Schaeffler figured it
Speaker:was worth a call to see what Scott who had been on the bag for Watson's two masters
Speaker:victories planned to do next after all.
Speaker:It's not every day that our veteran caddy with Scott's resume becomes available.
Speaker:So Scotty Scheffler, the winner of the recent masters.
Speaker:He'd met Scott in Bible study a year earlier.
Speaker:And I already thought the world of him as a person Jeff Lewis said, and
Speaker:Scott said he thought he was done with caddying, but that changed when the
Speaker:phone rang, he called me up and he said, I really want to work with a Christian.
Speaker:That's how I try to live my life.
Speaker:So a recent winner of the U S masters made is Katie and Bible school and
Speaker:pre prior to their own gold diner.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And and just wants to work with Christians.
Speaker:That's how he rolls.
Speaker:So hopefully he loses a few fans because of that.
Speaker:And, oh, I think we're just about done Joe there.
Speaker:We're going to know seven.
Speaker:That'll be enough.
Speaker:Everyone's going to bed anyway, so, alright.
Speaker:We have five stalwarts.
Speaker:Good on you.
Speaker:The stalwarts are there.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Well, that's it.
Speaker:I think on, on Tuesday it will be cam and here talking about the historical Jesus.
Speaker:So he's planning against.
Speaker:Hugh is going to argue that there definitely was a historical Jesus.
Speaker:I think cam is going to argue the case for why there wasn't, even though in
Speaker:reality can kind of concedes to 50 50 situation, but for the purposes of a
Speaker:debate, he's prepared to take a position.
Speaker:So anyway, it'll be interesting to see how little evidence there
Speaker:is of the historical Jesus.
Speaker:So I think that's the crux of it.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:We'll rehash that.
Speaker:Thanks Joe, for coming along again and thanks for the brilliant suggestion
Speaker:of switching the microphone into a different view as people, no
Speaker:wonder you are the, the tech guy.
Speaker:Hi.
Speaker:I just know the divine incantations that you need.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Thanks everyone.
Speaker:Talk to you next week.
Speaker:Bye for now.
