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Episode 478 - Wonderful or Shameful - Depends Who is Writing

In this episode, the hosts Trevor aka 'The Iron Fist', Scott aka 'The Velvet Glove', and Joe the tech guy, discuss the significant developments and reactions to the ongoing crisis in Gaza over the past week. They highlight the sudden shift in media coverage and political responses, focusing on the impact of the growing starvation in Gaza. The discussion covers the change in stance by various global leaders and the implications of Western civilisation's reactions to the crisis. They also touch upon related matters such as media bias, international law, and humanitarian issues. The show concludes with a lighter segment on Donald Trump's latest statements and actions, as well as a call for supporting unions.

00:00 Introduction: Setting the Stage

00:36 Gaza Crisis: A Turning Point

01:04 Meet the Hosts

01:43 Media Bias and Western Civilization

02:33 International Reactions and Political Dynamics

06:30 Humanitarian Crisis in Gaza

11:21 Australian Government's Stance

15:53 Protests and Public Sentiment

29:55 Media Coverage and Propaganda

36:09 TikTok and Censorship

37:13 Controversial Statements by Marjorie Taylor Greene

37:48 Debate on Jewish Identity and Anti-Zionism

38:47 Historical Context and Socialism in Israel

39:43 Current Events: School Children and Antisemitism

40:31 Yanis Perspective on Hamas and Apartheid

46:11 Discussion on Japan's Military Role

47:26 Trump's Policies and Federal Workers

50:03 Trump's Trade Tariffs and Beef Exports

54:05 Windmills and Clean Energy Debate

56:38 Trump's Battle with the Federal Reserve

59:10 Unionism and Social Change

01:05:53 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Transcript
Morgan:

We need to talk about ideas, good ones and bad ones.

Morgan:

We need to learn stuff about the world.

Morgan:

We need an honest, intelligent, thought provoking, and entertaining

Morgan:

review of what the hell happened on this planet in the last seven days.

Morgan:

We need to sit back and listen to the Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

What?

Trevor:

What happened in the last seven days?

Trevor:

I'll tell you what happened.

Trevor:

Suddenly newspapers, politicians suddenly decided, enough is enough

Trevor:

in Gaza, and it, it became okay to demand that things change, whereas

Trevor:

up until this point it didn't.

Trevor:

So a strange.

Trevor:

Turn of events that suddenly starvation was enough to tip the scales and

Trevor:

people could, these people who had been very silent on the matter

Trevor:

suddenly became, uh, a lot more vocal.

Trevor:

Anyway, I'm Trevor.

Trevor:

AKA, the Iron Fist over there in regional Queensland's.

Trevor:

Scott, the Velvet Glove.

Trevor:

How are you, Scott?

Scott:

Gday Trevor.

Scott:

Gday, Joe.

Scott:

Gday listeners.

Scott:

I hope everyone's doing well,

Trevor:

man.

Trevor:

Joe, the tech guy is back as well.

Trevor:

Hey, Neil.

Trevor:

Yes, if you join us in the chat room, say hello.

Trevor:

We will endeavor to incorporate your comments as we, as we work our way

Trevor:

through the agenda, which again, dear listener, is gonna be Gaza focused,

Trevor:

which we've been on about for months now.

Trevor:

But hey, it's not every, it's not every year, decade that you have

Trevor:

a, an openly televised genocide event like we have in Gaza.

Trevor:

And, and then also just the, the obvious media bias from different

Trevor:

places and will examine that as well.

Trevor:

And, um.

Trevor:

It's quite instructive as to the state of Western civilization, like whole

Trevor:

Gaza episode beside it just being a terrible thing for the people in Gaza,

Trevor:

but just as an observer of Western civilization and the reactions to it.

Trevor:

That's fascinating.

Trevor:

I find so, so, yeah.

Trevor:

Um, and maybe a bit of Trump

Trevor:

as usual mm-hmm.

Trevor:

A little bit of the President of America for light relief.

Trevor:

Yes.

Joe:

At the end.

Joe:

Isn't that the song, the Genocide will not be televised?

Joe:

Is there a song that No, it's, the Revolution will not be televised.

Joe:

Oh, okay.

Joe:

So, um,

Trevor:

so yeah.

Trevor:

So there, there we go.

Trevor:

So look, um, I feel that the tide has turned and, mm-hmm.

Trevor:

For example, the BBC had been very silent about this.

Trevor:

Suddenly a headline, more than a hundred a agencies say,

Trevor:

masturbation spreading across Gaza.

Trevor:

Um, Ursula vole from the eu.

Trevor:

Civilians cannot be targets, never.

Trevor:

The images from Gaza are unbearable.

Trevor:

The EU re reiterates its call for the free, safe and swift

Trevor:

flow of aid, blah, blah, blah.

Trevor:

Um, somebody like her would've been a classic example of somebody who

Trevor:

would've said, oh, Israel has a right to defend itself and don't

Trevor:

use the G word daily Express.

Trevor:

You know, pictures a, a picture of a starving kid for pity's sake.

Trevor:

Stop this now.

Trevor:

And, um, so yeah, starvation guys seems to be the tipping point.

Trevor:

Do you.

Trevor:

Had the same feeling I do.

Trevor:

That that's, there's been a difference or am I dreaming?

Scott:

Uh, no.

Scott:

There has definitely been a difference.

Scott:

Like you've got Kia Star, you've got, um, what's his name in Canada,

Scott:

whose name always escapes me.

Scott:

And you've also got Macron.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

They've all called, they've all basically, well, the only one that hasn't, the only

Scott:

one that didn't go a hundred percent behind recognizing Palestine was Britain,

Scott:

where they said, unless Israel does X, Y, Z, which they're not going to do, we're

Scott:

going to recognize Palestine in September.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know, and I just think to myself that the world has had a gut fall now, and

Scott:

they just said, well, enough's enough, you've gotta actually do something.

Scott:

If you don't do something, we're gonna recognize Palestine, which

Scott:

means that Palestine's gonna get membership of the United Nations.

Scott:

And you can't actually, you can't actually take on a sovereign state.

Scott:

Which is one of the things that Israel will have to actually contend with now.

Trevor:

I think they'll take on anybody.

Trevor:

Isn't that they're shown?

Trevor:

Well, they

Scott:

will actually take on, they will actually try and take them on,

Scott:

but the international community could actually say, no, you can't do that.

Scott:

You know, you've gotta back away.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

They'll just continue to ignore it.

Scott:

Yeah, they probably will.

Scott:

Anyway.

Scott:

Yeah, it's just one of those things.

Scott:

I just think to myself, it, it's another, think it's a sign from the

Scott:

Western world that we've had a gut full.

Joe:

Can they not take 'em to the ICJ if they're a member state?

Joe:

And what does membership give them?

Joe:

Recognition.

Joe:

Give them

Scott:

Well recognition probably gives them the ability to take them, take

Scott:

them to the ICJ if they wanted to,

Trevor:

but, you know, getting these people in front of these courts

Trevor:

when America is gonna sanction anybody who tries to do that mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And throw them in jail and reserve the right to militarily enter any

Trevor:

prison that might be set up and bring these people out again, that's not

Trevor:

gonna, that's not gonna do anything.

Trevor:

I wouldn't have thought.

Trevor:

But there's definitely a change of sentiment.

Trevor:

Um,

Joe:

I, I think America might find itself very, very lonely if it

Joe:

decided to invade the Netherlands.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

But you know what, they'll, they've been sanctioning key people mm-hmm.

Trevor:

In these UN groups, and nobody cares.

Trevor:

So, you know, the people involved in these prosecutions and calling for Netanyahu to

Trevor:

be brought before the court, and people like, uh, Francesca Albanese have been

Trevor:

sanctioned by the Americans and given half a chance they confiscate their bank

Trevor:

accounts, obviously refuse to let them into America, which might be a bonus.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

But, but wherever they can, um, make life extremely tough for them.

Trevor:

So,

Trevor:

yeah.

Trevor:

You know, um, there is that, so it's, it's just, um, it's just, we, it's

Trevor:

shocking to me that this is what it took was the starvation angle

Trevor:

that suddenly people were turning around and saying, enough is enough.

Trevor:

I reckon they've got half an eye to history and they have a feeling that.

Trevor:

Historians are, or people are gonna start looking around and saying, why

Trevor:

didn't you condemn what was happening?

Trevor:

And now they're putting out some words of condemnation to sort of

Trevor:

something to hang their hat on.

Trevor:

When people start pointing the fingers in years to come and saying,

Trevor:

you haven't done enough, you didn't do enough when you were in power.

Trevor:

And they can say, oh, you know, uh, around the, um, 4th of August, I, uh, I made some

Trevor:

statements that were condemning Israel.

Joe:

Well, it's looking very much like the Warsaw ghetto

Trevor:

now.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

More than any other time.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

So, just given, given so many images of kids blowing up, kids having parts

Trevor:

amputated without anesthetic, none of this is controversial in terms of evidence.

Trevor:

Like we've got the whole thing with kids being shot at.

Trevor:

In the genitals on purpose on certain days.

Trevor:

Actually, I think I've got a clip on this.

Trevor:

Let me just, uh, hang on.

Trevor:

Find this one.

Trevor:

Uh, yeah, I'll play this one about, about, about baby formula

Trevor:

and about kids being shot.

Trevor:

Here we go.

Dr:

Lots of doctors I know who have taken in formula feed because they

Dr:

knew there was such a shortage.

Dr:

None has been allowed in by the Israelis since the last time.

Dr:

If you go through a checkpoint, you get searched as a doctor, and

Dr:

if you've got any baby formula in your pockets or in your bag,

Dr:

they will confiscate it from you.

Dr:

Very specifically confiscating that.

Dr:

Nothing else.

Dr:

I cannot think of any reason why they would confiscate form feed.

Dr:

There was a very clear pattern of injuries, a cluster of injuries to

Dr:

specific body parts on particular days.

Dr:

So one day for example, we'd see.

Dr:

Patients coming in with gunshot wounds just to the head and neck on another day.

Dr:

They'd be coming in with gunshot wounds to the chest or the abdomen the next

Dr:

day, the legs on one day, about 12 days ago, we saw four young teenage

Dr:

boys, 13, 14, all of whom had been shot specifically in the testicles.

Dr:

Goodness man.

Dr:

So the, the, the very clear clustering of these injuries appeared

Dr:

to us like a, a target practice.

Dr:

Again,

Trevor:

all common knowledge, none of that was enough.

Trevor:

It requires staffing, pictures of staffing kids, but um,

Trevor:

yeah, baby formula particularly targeted

Scott:

well.

Trevor:

Drones.

Trevor:

Drones that play the sounds of babies crying so that people come out

Trevor:

and investigate and then get shot.

Trevor:

Policy terrorists would come

Joe:

out and investigate,

Trevor:

you know, something like that where you've got an obvious British doctor

Trevor:

of some sort amongst dozens and dozens of foreign medics who have been in done work,

Trevor:

got out and reported on what's happened.

Trevor:

It's, it's clearly, um, good.

Trevor:

Uh, but they were

Joe:

shot by Hamas.

Joe:

You see, it was a false flag.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Clearly people like this, there's enough of them saying the same thing

Trevor:

there without any reason to lie.

Trevor:

Um, reporting on these things, it's not like we haven't known about these things.

Trevor:

No.

Trevor:

But the, the news is being complicit.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

But our leaders should

Scott:

have known, well, our leaders would've, would've known

Scott:

about it, and they decided not to share it with the public, I think.

Scott:

Wow.

Scott:

Or they've ignored those, you know, they've ignored things like

Scott:

the John UE blog that was actually trying to say something about it.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

They've probably been ignoring, I think Crikeys also been saying a

Scott:

fair bit about it too, haven't they?

Trevor:

They have.

Trevor:

I'll get onto a little bit of that.

Trevor:

Um,

Scott:

and also I, I've noticed that, um, 7:00 AM which I listen to every

Scott:

day, that has not turned in the last couple of weeks, but it has got more.

Scott:

There's certainly louder presence of the whole Gaza thing right now on there.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Anyway.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So our Australian government, um, signed a statement urging Israel to

Trevor:

end the war in the enclave now, and lift restrictions on the flow of aid.

Trevor:

The Gaza Strip and the statement also condemned her mass.

Trevor:

Um, and also at some point, uh, the Australian government was sort of

Trevor:

queried by the greens, I think Scott, on our supplying of spare parts for

Trevor:

the F 35 jet fighters that Israel is using to, um, attack the Gaza Strip.

Trevor:

Good news though, Scott, is that the parts that we were supplying for the

Trevor:

fighter jets were the non-lethal parts.

Trevor:

I'll just play a bit of that.

Wong:

As part of the global F 35 supply chain, we contribute components and

Wong:

parts that are non lethal in nature.

Wong:

Thank you, minister.

Wong:

Non-lethal, non-lethal in nature.

Shoebridge:

Thank you, minister.

Shoebridge:

I'm just trying to imagine the, the, the non-lethal bits of an F 35 fighter jet.

Joe:

Like idiot.

Joe:

Everything apart from the bullets and the missiles,

Trevor:

they just treat us like complete

Joe:

idiots,

Trevor:

don't they?

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

I think we do something with a door that, a Bay of a Bombay, and it's

Trevor:

something to do with the mechanism that opens the door to drop the bombs.

Joe:

Right?

Trevor:

Apparently one of the non-lethal, actually, I think,

Trevor:

I think I might have it here.

Trevor:

Um, um, uh, no I don't have that, but I think it was something to do with that.

Trevor:

So, so yeah, that's what the Australian government is doing.

Trevor:

Uh, making a few motherhood statements about how terrible it is and then

Trevor:

continuing to supply parts that enable Israel to keep doing this.

Trevor:

Um, the opposition wasn't happier though.

Trevor:

Alia Cash.

Trevor:

She said the, uh, Australian government stance by condemning

Trevor:

Israel and urging Israel to end the war now, and to lift restrictions.

Trevor:

She disa, antisemetic disappointed.

Trevor:

What's that?

Trevor:

She said it was anti-Semitic.

Trevor:

Uh, well, she said it was disappointing that once again, the Albany government is

Trevor:

supporting a statement attacking Israel.

Trevor:

She said,

Joe:

well, if they deserve to be attacked, why not?

Joe:

Because one of their allies, judge, that is verbally attacked.

Joe:

But yeah.

Joe:

But if your allies are doing something wrong, you don't just

Joe:

bury your head in the sand.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Well, what did Sky News have to say?

Trevor:

Here we go.

Sky:

Hey, the Albanese government joined other jelly backed governments.

Sky:

And issued a statement highly critical of our ally Israel, a

Sky:

country that's fighting for its very existence in a war against Hamas.

Sky:

It didn't start.

Sky:

And while it suffered missile attacks from Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis

Sky:

from Yemen and directly from Iran, this statement calls for a ceasefire

Sky:

effectively demanding that Israel stop pursuing Humma, even while a ceasefire

Sky:

approved by Israel has been on the table for hammas to accept since last,

Trevor:

yeah, just on the ceasefire thing, like Kamar said ages ago, um, we'll

Trevor:

give up the prisoners, but you have to leave and it's an immediate ceasefire.

Trevor:

We won't have anything to do with any future role in Gaza, but it's gonna be

Trevor:

an immediate and permanent ceasefire.

Trevor:

And the Israelis were wanting a 60 day ceasefire, which meant that they could

Trevor:

just resume things again afterwards.

Trevor:

So, so our masters offered everything that anybody wants.

Trevor:

It's just that Israel wanted a 60 day ceasefire and of course we're

Trevor:

just gonna start continuing on after that, that get prison back

Scott:

60 days.

Scott:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So,

Joe:

and it wasn't a 60 day ceasefire and aid can flow.

Trevor:

Probably not now that detail alludes me.

Trevor:

Yeah, so,

Joe:

so in 60 days they'd be even more starving and weak, so

Joe:

all the better to attack them.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Scott, what'd you think of the Sydney Harbor Bridge?

Trevor:

March?

Scott:

No, it was fine.

Scott:

I didn't have anything, I didn't have any complaints with it

Scott:

or anything else, you know?

Scott:

Um, Scott, that's not the response.

Scott:

Why?

Trevor:

It was just you didn't have any complaints about it?

Trevor:

Like, no.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

Did you think

Trevor:

it was a good

Scott:

thing?

Scott:

Well, 90,000 people turned up.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Scott:

You know, and they came out during, they came out in

Scott:

the rain and everything else.

Scott:

So I just think to myself that there was probably more that would've

Scott:

attended if the rain hadn't have been pissing down the way it was.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

There were some, you know, there, there is some reports that some of

Scott:

them were carrying, um, Taliban flags and that type of thing, but, you know,

Scott:

you've gotta expect that, um, you know,

Joe:

expect that from Sky News to make up shit.

Scott:

I don't know.

Joe:

I, I saw the comments under some report, news report about.

Joe:

Uh, 90,000 people and there were comments like, oh, I wish the bridge had collapsed.

Joe:

And hope Israel's taking notes, uh, to know who to kill in the future.

Joe:

And my God, that many Lebs who let them into the country, um,

Joe:

the level of, the level of xenophobia that anyone who's at that march

Joe:

must be a foreigner Arab 'cause.

Joe:

No ordinary, a Australian would think that genocide was a bad thing and turn up,

Scott:

oh no, there are, there are a hell of a lot of idiots in this country.

Scott:

You know, and I think you've been here long enough to understand that we do have

Scott:

a hell of a lot of idiots in this country.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

Um, every country does.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

No.

Scott:

Anyway, it's just, um, but no, I had no complaints with

Scott:

the, with the bridge protest.

Scott:

Why?

Scott:

What did I miss?

Trevor:

Well, I just wondered whether you thought it was a good thing that.

Trevor:

That so many people came out and said, enough's enough.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It was a good thing.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

If there was a protest up here in Mackay, would've gone to it, but there wasn't.

Scott:

Mm. You know, and you know, I admit I'm not the first to actually go out

Scott:

there waving flags or anything else.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Scott:

Because I think that people would throw rocks at me

Scott:

if I started it up here anyway.

Trevor:

Well, Scott, I wonder what Andrew Bolt, you are probably wondering

Trevor:

what Andrew Bolt thought of it.

Scott:

I've long since stopped caring what Andrew Bolt has to say.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So he's, do you appear on Sky News or was in new's?

Scott:

Um, well, he wrote

Trevor:

an article, uh, in the Australian, it was the Australian,

Trevor:

in one of the Murdoch press ones.

Trevor:

The heading of, which was March is proof that Sikh Hamas tactics working.

Trevor:

The opening paragraph was.

Trevor:

Yesterday was a day of, this is talking about the, the, the march

Trevor:

over the Sydney Harbor bridge.

Trevor:

Yesterday was a day of national shame as pro-Palestinian protestors backed by

Trevor:

a wrongheaded judge hijacked the Sydney Harbor bridge to cause chaos and make

Trevor:

common calls with a mass terrorists.

Joe:

I, I don't know that saying genocide is bad, is making calls

Joe:

with a bunch of terrorists.

Trevor:

Wow.

Trevor:

Whatever the protestors thought they were doing this shameless barbarity

Trevor:

is what they're encouraging more war and the survival of the world's

Trevor:

cruelest Jew haters that are judged.

Trevor:

Help them by rejecting police.

Trevor:

Please.

Trevor:

To ban the Harbor Bridge March just shows the depth of our moral confusion.

Trevor:

This asshole goes on a massive rant and reckons everybody

Trevor:

else is morally confused.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Uh, the judge actually said, um, something along the lines

Trevor:

that it's in the very nature of the right of peaceful protest, that

Trevor:

disruption will be caused to others.

Trevor:

Um, and, and Andrew Bolt says, really, this seems to confuse the right to

Trevor:

protest with a right to bully, um, hold the protest at a beach or park, and

Trevor:

almost nobody would be inconvenienced.

Trevor:

But these protesters chose to protest at one of the most inconvenient

Trevor:

places of all, obviously to annoy as many people as possible.

Joe:

I wasn't inconvenienced,

Trevor:

uh,

Trevor:

what does he go on here?

Trevor:

Um, I know yesterday's protesters include many who actually meant well.

Trevor:

But do they think, well, this war in Gaja was actually started

Trevor:

by Hamas when it slaughtered.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

In

Joe:

1948, they invaded is, uh, Israel, didn't they?

Joe:

This is the thing.

Trevor:

It started by Hamas when it slaughtered 1200 Israelis

Trevor:

and kidnapped 2 51 people.

Trevor:

This did not start on October 7th.

Trevor:

No, it started 70 years earlier.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Trevor:

And if people think, oh, what AMA did was terrible, and everything Israel's done

Trevor:

is justified by that act, you could pluck out dozens of incidents where Israel did

Trevor:

things to Palestinians that were worse.

Trevor:

And you could say, well then that must justify what the Palestinians do.

Trevor:

But of course, you'd have to be prepared to empathize and.

Trevor:

Think of outside your own tribal lines in order to do that, which

Trevor:

is way too much for so many people.

Trevor:

Ah, what have we got here?

Trevor:

Still from Andrew Bolt.

Trevor:

Some protestors will say they simply want Israel to let in more food to Gaza.

Trevor:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese himself has said he was moved by a picture on

Trevor:

the front page of the age of an emaciated Mohamed Zacharia, an alleged example of

Trevor:

children being stard to death by Israel.

Joe:

But in fact, but what he didn't realize is actually he's a member of ama

Trevor:

that the kid.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

Well, what he goes on to talk about is that is this kid whose picture appeared

Trevor:

on some international newspapers.

Trevor:

The allegation is that the kid had some sort of preexisting medical

Trevor:

condition and wasn't starving.

Trevor:

So, um, so that's the sort of.

Trevor:

A thing going around is, oh, there's not actually kids starving in Gaza.

Trevor:

See that kid there that they held up as an example.

Trevor:

He has a preexisting medical condition that meant that's why he's like that.

Trevor:

And this is disingenuous by the mainstream, you know,

Trevor:

by media who present this.

Scott:

Oh, that crap.

Trevor:

Good friends of mine are posting reposting shit like that.

Trevor:

But they're no longer good friends.

Trevor:

I guess they're old acquaintances.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Are reprinting this sort of shitty article calling into question

Trevor:

whether there are starving people in Gaza or not, because they claim the

Trevor:

picture of this kid was not a starving kid, he had some medical condition.

Joe:

Well this is Trump, but it's, it's prior to Trump.

Joe:

It's, it's the complete, basically muddy the water.

Joe:

Give a counterfactual, whether it's true or not, doesn't matter because those

Joe:

people who are politically motivated to believe it will accept that as evidence.

Joe:

Yep.

Joe:

And will ignore the other side.

Scott:

Well, just looking at that kid on the Daily Express,

Scott:

he certainly looks at the very least malnourished.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Now he's probably starving, but yeah.

Scott:

At the very least, he's malnourished.

Scott:

And you know, the only thing he hasn't got is the distended belly, which, you

Scott:

know, you often see with, um, kids.

Scott:

I've seen that in

Joe:

other photos.

Scott:

You have seen that in other photos.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

No worries.

Scott:

It, it's,

Scott:

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a bloody duck.

Scott:

You know, it, it's, well, clearly if that kid does have a

Scott:

preexisting medical condition, the lack of food is making it worse.

Trevor:

So I think there's a few possibilities.

Trevor:

Say again?

Trevor:

I think there's a few possibilities.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So one is the kid is dying from, uh, a lack of medicine, the correct medicine.

Trevor:

We've gotta remember they're not only banning, you know, food and baby formula

Trevor:

coming into the area, but also medicine.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So it's entirely possible, even if it is a medical condition that he's

Trevor:

suffering because the he's in the right medication isn't getting in.

Trevor:

Alternatively, he's dying from lack of food and starving.

Trevor:

But the other one is, okay, he's not dying at all.

Trevor:

But is anyone else dying from starvation?

Trevor:

Like these people with these articles who are saying this is misleading.

Trevor:

They, they don't say it outright, but they're really kind of suggesting

Trevor:

that there is no starvation in caza.

Trevor:

And it's just shameful of these people.

Trevor:

Like

Trevor:

the Israeli government has made it clear that's what they're trying to do.

Trevor:

Mm. The actual alleged perpetrators are saying, we're trying to

Trevor:

starve these people to death.

Trevor:

Why can't we believe them?

Trevor:

And it's like, oh, it's terrible.

Trevor:

If you would think that Israel would do the case, would've done that.

Trevor:

Well, that's their stated aim.

Trevor:

That's what their leaders are telling us they're trying to do.

Trevor:

I'm just over these people who are intelligent people

Trevor:

sitting on the sidelines here in Australia looking at this.

Trevor:

And they're so tribal that they have, they're just willing to overlook

Trevor:

the obvious, um, to support Israel.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Trevor:

Caitlyn Johnston says, I'm having trouble finding the words to talk about the

Trevor:

people who are scurrying around, lying and manipulating to excuse the deliberate

Trevor:

starvation of civilians in Gaza today.

Trevor:

Evil doesn't cut it.

Trevor:

Monster and psychopath are too kind.

Trevor:

How do these people live with themselves?

Joe:

I think the same thing.

Joe:

Well, the people who are making up the, the false rumors.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

The people who are latching onto them are just looking for an excuse

Joe:

to justify their political point.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Joe:

And I don't think they're thinking much of it.

Trevor:

They're thinking, we are idiots.

Trevor:

We're thinking we're gullible idiots who just Oh, the people who are making up the

Joe:

bullshit.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And the people who are repeating it think we're idiots.

Trevor:

We're just gullible idiots who have swallowed the left wing propaganda and.

Trevor:

Want Hama to win and don't recognize that poor Israel will be

Trevor:

overrun by, um, Muslim extremists.

Trevor:

They'll all be killed.

Trevor:

So Israel had no other choice but to do this like that, that's

Trevor:

the line that they would run.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Speaking of starvation, uh, a FP reports, its reporters still on site in Gaza are

Trevor:

currently dying from hunger, and the, uh, a FP was founded in 1944 and says,

Trevor:

we have lost journalists in conflicts.

Trevor:

We've had wounded and prisoners in our ranks, but none of us has the memory of

Trevor:

having seen a collaborator die of hunger.

Trevor:

So that's actual journalists, guys, as you know, are they

Scott:

Palestinian journalists and starving?

Trevor:

Uh, they have to be because, um, no foreign journalists were

Trevor:

allowed into the country unless they were already in there, Scott.

Scott:

Okay.

Trevor:

Um, but no foreign journalists were allowed into the country.

Trevor:

And they recently did some, a drops by plane.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And the journalists in the plains were not allowed to take photographs from

Trevor:

the plane of the destruction in Gaza.

Trevor:

I, as you know, for my sins, subscribe to the Courier Mail and for Laly every

Trevor:

day, look for a picture of a starving, dismembered, wounded Palestinian kid

Trevor:

that might tear at the heartstrings of a reader and convince them nothing.

Trevor:

Nothing.

Trevor:

Dear listener, for two years, nearly today, an image of a starving man,

Trevor:

obviously R Thin rib sticking out, looked in a terrible condition.

Trevor:

You're probably thinking,

Joe:

well,

Trevor:

finally, the Korean male has found a heart.

Joe:

No, I've seen this.

Trevor:

There's a picture of one of the hostages.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

So, fair enough to provide a picture of one of the hostages that

Trevor:

these bastards have not shown pictures of any of the starving wounded, maimed and

Joe:

maed.

Joe:

The hostage is starving because there's no food in Gaza, not because his

Joe:

captors are deliberately starving him.

Joe:

True.

Trevor:

In fact, the, the prisoners who were returned mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Uh, commented about how well they were treated relatively.

Trevor:

So, um, uh, so yeah, but god damn courier male, that's, uh, that's

Trevor:

what it would've came up with today.

Trevor:

So.

Trevor:

Um, s So yeah, let me just say Crikey, actually Crikey did a

Trevor:

wrap of the coverage on the bridge comparing the different media outlets.

Trevor:

Um, the A BC described the protests protestors as having braved a literal

Trevor:

rainstorm, the courts, which ruled in their favor on Saturday, and they've

Trevor:

braved the political will of Chris Mins, the New South Wales premier.

Trevor:

So a, b, C positive about the protestors.

Trevor:

The Western Australian front page headline, bloody chaos, baby doll smeared

Trevor:

in fake blood and Aussie flag burned as while protests become our normal.

Trevor:

Read the south heading.

Trevor:

So that's the Western Australia.

Joe:

Oh no, the, the Guardian.

Joe:

How, how is the country gonna survive?

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

People being smeared in fake blood and a flag being burned.

Trevor:

We are just in this Orwellian dystopian world.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Where you, the same event is reported in so many different ways.

Trevor:

The guardian sea of people march across Sydney Harbor Bridge, calling

Trevor:

for an end to the killing in Kaza.

Trevor:

Good Sydney Morning Herald.

Trevor:

Sydney says, enough called the March even bigger than we dreamt of in

Trevor:

a monumental and historic success.

Trevor:

The Daily Telegraph News Corp didn't even put anything on the front page.

Trevor:

A small banner referenced to page four, and in page four it had a bridge too far.

Trevor:

Has chaotic protest sent, set an unwanted precedent, and, um,

Trevor:

somewhere else was a headline, almost catastrophic chaos at Gaza March.

Trevor:

All the same event.

Trevor:

Nine news, fairly positive, uh, special and significant.

Trevor:

The sheer amount of people, we were all blown away.

Trevor:

But Sky News as we've, um, we've just heard, um, no, that was a different clip.

Trevor:

McFerson on Sky News accused protestors of waving Hamas flags and Taliban flags,

Trevor:

and said that the protestors condemned the supposed starving of Palestinians.

Trevor:

This is the sort of shit that is on Sky News, where they talk about the

Trevor:

supposed starving of Palestinians.

Trevor:

Not saying, oh, there's no Palestinians starving.

Trevor:

There's, you know, question mark over that.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Also, sky News marches also ignored the Sydney public whose ability to

Trevor:

traverse the Sydney made impossible by the bridge closure, blah, blah.

Trevor:

And the Australian, there's

Joe:

a tunnel right next to the bridge.

Trevor:

Yes, indeed.

Trevor:

Um, I think the tunnel actually follows the

Scott:

bridge doesn't, it just goes under the harbor.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And there's three train lines on the bridge as well.

Scott:

They wouldn't have shut down the train lines, would they?

Trevor:

No, I don't think.

Trevor:

And the Australian Sydney Harbor Bridge, pro-Palestine protest marred

Trevor:

by Aya to image and traffic chaos.

Trevor:

That was the headline.

Trevor:

So, so I think we rabbit on about, on this podcast, about the propaganda

Trevor:

that we are subjected to in this world.

Trevor:

And that is just a classic example of how the pro-Palestine march is

Trevor:

covered by the different papers.

Trevor:

Depending on the ideology that they have, and yet Dick ads out there will tell you

Trevor:

that they think journalists are fair and unbiased and are doing the best they can.

Trevor:

There's no way that they would report things.

Trevor:

Who says that?

Trevor:

Being told by editors how to report things?

Trevor:

I Come on Trevor.

Trevor:

I would've been told You don't think that journalists are

Joe:

I, I think the journalists are harassed by other forms of media and

Joe:

they're doing a thousand news stories in the time that it takes to do 10.

Joe:

Yep.

Joe:

So they don't bother fact checking anything.

Joe:

They don't have time to fact check anything.

Joe:

They're just copying and pasting from the various newsfeeds they're given

Joe:

and press releases that they're given

Trevor:

indeed for most things.

Trevor:

But journalists in the Murdoch Empire, when sitting down to write their article

Trevor:

about the pro-Palestinian march over the Sydney Harbor Bridge, not for one

Trevor:

minute thought that they could write.

Trevor:

A positive piece about the march and how it demonstrated Australia's support for

Trevor:

Palestinians and, and that sort of thing.

Trevor:

They knew that they had to be disparaging and negative about it, otherwise they

Trevor:

wouldn't have a job the next day.

Trevor:

Um, I dunno.

Trevor:

In fact, they wouldn't have been hired to do the job unless they

Trevor:

automatically thought that way.

Trevor:

They wouldn't have even had that initial thought.

Trevor:

Maybe I could write a piece positive about the march because they wouldn't

Trevor:

be in that newsroom working for News Corp if they thought that way.

Joe:

No, no, no.

Joe:

They don't think at all.

Joe:

It's an AI bot.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

That spews out whatever the editorial staff put in.

Joe:

No.

Joe:

Well,

Trevor:

the bot is programmed Yeah.

Trevor:

To make it, but these guys and girls are programmed by the, the

Trevor:

swampy cesspool that they've joined.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And call themselves journalists.

Trevor:

Shame on them.

Trevor:

Like get another job.

Trevor:

Just, I know you've got mortgages and commitments, but just

Trevor:

repeating the sort of shit that Murdoch requires you to repeat.

Trevor:

It's not worth selling yourself for.

Trevor:

There's my advice to all those journalists.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So,

Trevor:

okay.

Trevor:

Andrew's leaving us.

Trevor:

He's gotta go.

Trevor:

Test match is starting what

Trevor:

evening to Alison.

Trevor:

Test match again.

Trevor:

Whatley, Don, uh, and Andrew.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

What else have we got here?

Trevor:

Um,

Trevor:

just run through a few things.

Trevor:

Uh, so we had Jillian Al here, special Envoy appointed by Anthony Albanese.

Trevor:

TikTok has hired Mossad Asset, former Israeli proud Zionist, Erica Mendel,

Trevor:

to directly run their censorship.

Trevor:

They're paying her $371,000 a year to sit in an office in New York censoring

Trevor:

posts and banning accounts for Israel.

Trevor:

So, um, so yeah, tiktoks got, um, their censor in place and they

Trevor:

didn't pick somebody from, uh, the Jewish groups that are non Zionist.

Trevor:

They've picked one from deep in the hard line Zionist territory

Trevor:

and say, oh, well, she's Jewish.

Trevor:

She can speak on behalf of all of them with her pro Zionist views.

Trevor:

Good luck on TikTok getting something out there that's anti Zionist

Trevor:

in this crazy mixed up world.

Trevor:

Scott.

Trevor:

People like Marjorie Taylor, a cooling garra Holocaust.

Trevor:

Yeah, but not Bernie Sanders.

Scott:

She's calling it a Gar Garza Holocaust.

Scott:

He's not causing

Trevor:

it, he's not causing it a genocide yet.

Scott:

But Marjorie Tower Green is

Trevor:

Yes.

Scott:

MTG.

Scott:

Yep.

Trevor:

Has,

Scott:

uh, it doesn't surprise me 'cause she was the one that said that,

Scott:

you know, as Jewish space lasers that caused the, uh, California wildfires.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

You

Scott:

know, I,

Trevor:

so sometimes a stop clock, Scott.

Scott:

Well, sometimes a stop clock is twice.

Scott:

So sometimes the

Trevor:

Nazis right?

Scott:

Yes, he is right twice a day.

Scott:

But, um, Bernie Sanders, he's a Jew and everything else.

Scott:

I, you know,

Scott:

I understand if you are Jewish, that it does take a fair bit to get involved.

Scott:

And there was a guy this morning on 7:00 AM that was talking about how

Scott:

his father had to leave Nazi Germany.

Scott:

And, um, all that type of thing.

Scott:

And he said that he's lost friends because he's taken an Andy Zionist position.

Scott:

And they said, well, why, why are you, why are you, why are you

Scott:

turning your back on the tribe?

Scott:

And he says, I'm not turning my back on the tribe.

Scott:

He says, but the tribe's current government is wrong.

Scott:

Hmm.

Scott:

And he's finding it very hard to get it through people's thick skull

Scott:

that you can be anti, you can be anti-ISIS, Israel's government

Scott:

without being necessarily anti-Israel.

Scott:

But you, you're certainly not anti-Semitic.

Joe:

I, I've seen old Jews who said, you know, we worked in the kum.

Joe:

We, we had this idea of a socialist utopia.

Scott:

Yeah.

Joe:

A worker's paradise.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

And, and current Israel is not what we fought for.

Scott:

No, exactly.

Scott:

You know, the kibbutz was probably the, um.

Scott:

The kibbutz system was probably the only place that socialism actually worked out.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know, it's just that it was, it was just there at that time.

Scott:

It worked very well for that particular period of time.

Scott:

I think everywhere else, you know, socialism hasn't worked.

Scott:

It's just been part of the system and everything else.

Scott:

You know, like, you know, it's like Vietnam, it calls it, they're a socialist

Scott:

Republic of Vietnam, but there's nothing socialist about the country at all.

Scott:

You know, everything's for sale, including government decisions.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

You know, um,

Trevor:

anyway.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

School children, they used to, uh, sing Kumbaya, but now, uh, some Jewish

Trevor:

school children were kicked off a plane after singing death to Arabs, um, that,

Trevor:

uh, Spanish airline got rid of them.

Trevor:

Uh, you know, that

Scott:

doesn't surprise me, like it's just, um.

Scott:

It is, like I've said before, you know, the next generation of Hamas

Scott:

terrorists are being bred now in in Gaza because they're just gonna grow up

Scott:

and they're gonna be told, well, your parents are dead because of the Jews.

Scott:

You know, it's not going to, the Israelis are creating the next

Scott:

wave of antisemitism, you know?

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Uh, a danger to the Jews everywhere is what the Zionists are doing.

Trevor:

Yeah, exactly.

Trevor:

Now, regular listeners will know that I'm a big fan of Giannis for a Farkas,

Trevor:

and he has a bit to say for three minutes on amass, and then will be able to

Trevor:

move on to Trump and a bit of comedy.

Trevor:

But for the last word on this topic for tonight, here is yanus.

Yanis:

Those who try very hard to extract from people like me, from

Yanis:

DM 25, A condemnation of the attack.

Yanis:

By the Hamas ez, uh, will never get it, and they will never get

Yanis:

it for a very simple reason.

Yanis:

Those who care about humans without any discrimination, those who care

Yanis:

equally about a Jew and an Arab

Yanis:

must ask themselves a very simple question.

Yanis:

What exactly is their idea of the cessation of hostilities that

Yanis:

Palestinians are going to lay down their arms and go back to into the

Yanis:

largest open air prison in the world?

Yanis:

Where they are constantly suffocated by the apartheid state.

Yanis:

In other words, back in South Africa, in the era of apartheid,

Yanis:

uh, what was the problem?

Yanis:

Was it that, um, uh, some, uh, uh, members of the black resistance, uh, including

Yanis:

the A NC, but not only the A NC took up arms against the South African regime

Yanis:

and sometimes killed innocent people?

Yanis:

Was that the problem with apartheid?

Yanis:

No, the problem was apartheid.

Yanis:

Apartheid, whether it's practiced in South Africa or in Palestine or Israel, is

Yanis:

always going to procure violence because it's a violent misanthropic system.

Yanis:

Uh, any human being living un under appetite at some point will either die

Yanis:

a terrible silent death or rebel and often take innocent people with him.

Yanis:

The criminals here are not Hamas, not even the Israeli settlers

Yanis:

who are killing Palestinians.

Yanis:

The criminals are Europeans.

Yanis:

Us every single member of, uh, our German society, a French society, a

Yanis:

Greek society, a United States society.

Yanis:

We have, uh, participated in this crime against humanity over the

Yanis:

decades by keeping our mouth, our mouths shut, as long as there is no

Yanis:

trouble down there, as long as people are dying, um, outside the reach of

Yanis:

cameras, as long as its Palestinians would die and not the occupiers.

Yanis:

So this incredible tragedy must be converted.

Yanis:

Into an opportunity for us Europeans to wake up and to redeem ourselves by

Yanis:

demanding that collectively we take the first decisive step towards peace.

Yanis:

And that is the destruction of the state of apartheid, just

Yanis:

like we did in South Africa.

Trevor:

Hmm.

Trevor:

There we go.

Trevor:

Be honest.

Trevor:

Wasn't that long ago when, um, I think the Apartheid sort of analogy is a

Trevor:

good one and really helped turn the tide against Israel a few years ago.

Trevor:

I think people would go,

Scott:

yeah, it's a

Trevor:

pretty analogous situation.

Trevor:

Makes sense.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's just, um, you know, it's like I've, I've said to you before, you know.

Scott:

Those settlers are a breed apart and just the contempt they

Scott:

show for the Palestinians is utterly disgusting what they do.

Scott:

You know,

Trevor:

it is Scott, but I have some sympathy for them in the sense that

Trevor:

they are so totally immersed in a propagandized bubble of indoctrination

Trevor:

that I, I have more sympathy for them than I do for some of my fellow

Trevor:

Aussies who you know are pro-Israel.

Trevor:

Because Yeah, I can, I think you've gotta, you should have been able

Trevor:

to break out of the bubble here.

Trevor:

I can understand those things.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

You should

Scott:

have been able to break outta the bubble here.

Scott:

The settlers.

Scott:

Yeah, but I'm still not prepared to lend them all that much credibility

Scott:

because, you know, just little things like throwing an empty stubby down in

Scott:

a. To smash in a Palestinian courtyard.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

That sort of thing is disgusting.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

But anyway, it's just run of the mill, so.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

I wouldn't be relying on, like Gianni talked about hope, I

Trevor:

think of the EU doing something, but those guys are just, um,

Joe:

well, Germany has got such a guilt complex about what it did in

Joe:

the second World War that anything Israel does is beyond reproach.

Joe:

Mm. Because the Germans say, we can't reproach the Jews.

Joe:

Look what we did to them.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

And, and I think the Germans need to get over that.

Scott:

Exactly.

Scott:

They do.

Scott:

You know, I, I I think it's time for the world to get over the second World War.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

Uh, I think it's time for the Japanese to get out onto the battlefield

Scott:

again and that sort of stuff.

Scott:

They shouldn't just have a Japanese defense force.

Scott:

They should have a Japanese force that actually gets involved in things.

Scott:

Well, Scott, do

Trevor:

we really need 'em

Scott:

to get

Trevor:

out on the battlefield?

Trevor:

Yeah, maybe, maybe just kick, maybe just kick the US.

Trevor:

Bases out and not get on in battlefield maybe.

Scott:

No, I just think do they really?

Scott:

I just think that if you have, if Japan was able to do something,

Scott:

then you probably against two.

Scott:

I don't know.

Scott:

Ja,

Joe:

Japan is the opposite of Germany, though.

Joe:

Japan hasn't even agreed that they committed war crimes.

Scott:

Yeah, I know they haven't agreed.

Scott:

They've committed war crimes, but they've got a very pacifist, um, constitution.

Scott:

Well,

Joe:

yes.

Joe:

Yeah.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

But gee,

Trevor:

is there anything wrong with the pacifist constitution?

Trevor:

Do we need our pacifist to go out on the battlefield, Scott?

Scott:

Well, I would have no problem if North Korea decided to actually

Scott:

kick the shit outta South Korea.

Scott:

I wouldn't have a problem if the Japanese got involved in that fight.

Trevor:

I don't think we have to worry about North Korea

Trevor:

picking fights with South Korea.

Scott:

Well, one would hope not.

Scott:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Shall we have a bit of fun with Trump?

Trevor:

Sure.

Scott:

Might as well,

Trevor:

uh, don about Trump.

Trevor:

What, uh, Joe, you found a thing, a memo about US employees, federal workers.

Trevor:

What'd you think of that one?

Scott:

I actually heard that.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Is this the one about them that they're, they're okay to?

Joe:

A Trump memo allows federal workers to persuade coworkers that their

Joe:

religion is the true and correct one.

Scott:

Mm.

Joe:

As long as it's not harassment.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

Because harassment is when anybody tells a Christian that their religion

Joe:

is wrong, it's not harassment for a Christian to tell anyone

Joe:

else that their religion's wrong.

Trevor:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trevor:

A special memo went out to federal workers and examples were given During a

Trevor:

break, an employee may engage in another, in polite discussion of why his faith

Trevor:

is correct and why the non-adherent should rethink his religious beliefs.

Trevor:

However, if the non-adherent requests such attempts to stop, the employee

Trevor:

should honor the request, the memo added.

Trevor:

Well then that's okay, isn't it?

Trevor:

Like, if you're just saying like, that must happen in lunchrooms all the time

Trevor:

where religious people say, you know, I found Jesus and I think you should

Trevor:

too, want me to talk to you about it.

Trevor:

If people say, I have F off,

Scott:

I have never experienced anything like that in my entire life, and I

Scott:

worked at a Catholic high school.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

But Catholics don't proselytize even then I actually said to the, uh, principal

Scott:

and all that sort of stuff, when she came to me con to control me about my father.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

And I said, I've never considered myself to be a man of faith.

Scott:

And she said, that's no problem at all, but we will pray for your father's soul.

Scott:

And I thought to myself, okay, fair enough.

Scott:

You can do that if you want to.

Scott:

You know, it's just, I have never experienced anyone trying tous.

Scott:

Protal size to me, you know, I've never experienced it at all.

Scott:

Anyway,

Trevor:

anyway, the Trump, uh, administration is looking to

Trevor:

help people who wanna do that.

Trevor:

So that's a memo that came out.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

They're gonna be shocked when the satanists start.

Joe:

Mm.

Scott:

That'll be, yeah.

Scott:

It's one of those things, I just think this myself, they've actually gotta,

Scott:

um, they've gotta prepare for that.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Because allowing all these religions to say as much as they want, they're

Scott:

gonna have to put up with the, uh, Hindus, they're gonna have to put

Scott:

out with the satanists, they're gonna have to put out with everyone else.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Tariffs, Trump and India.

Trevor:

So Donald Trump put out a truth.

Trevor:

Yeah, remember, while India is our friend, we have over the years done relatively

Trevor:

little business with them because their tariffs are far too high among the highest

Trevor:

in the world, and they have the most strenuous and obnoxious non-monetary

Trevor:

trade barriers of any country.

Trevor:

Also, they have always bought a vast majority of their military equipment

Trevor:

from Russia and our Russia's largest buyer of energy along with China at

Trevor:

a time when everyone wants Russia two and the rest is in capital

Trevor:

letters, stop the killing in Ukraine.

Trevor:

All things not good exclamation mark India will therefore be paying a tariff

Trevor:

of 25% plus a penalty for the above, starting on August 1st, thank you for

Trevor:

your attention to this matter, Magar,

Trevor:

just the phrasing of this guy, the capitals that not it, it is comical.

Scott:

Um, yeah, it's one of those things.

Scott:

I actually heard a report the other day.

Scott:

That they reckon that future administrations are gonna find

Scott:

it very difficult to walk away from the tariffs because the

Scott:

amount of money they're actually collecting from the American people.

Scott:

From the American people, I know.

Scott:

It's just, it's, it is a new wave of taxation that they've got over there.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Quite possibly progressive taxation.

Joe:

They, they'll have to tax the millionaires again and Or the billionaires.

Joe:

Yeah, exactly.

Joe:

And the billionaires are funding the politicians, so they're not gonna do that.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Uh, Australia capitulated on beef.

Trevor:

So Donald Trump another truth.

Trevor:

After many years, Australia has agreed to accept American beef for a long time.

Trevor:

And even though we are great friends, they actually banned our beef.

Trevor:

Now we are going to sell so much to Australia because this is undeniable

Trevor:

and irrefutable proof that US beef is the safest and best in the entire world.

Trevor:

The other countries that refuse our magnificent beef are on notice.

Trevor:

All of our nation's ranches who are some of the hardest working and

Trevor:

most wonderful people are smiling today, which means I am smiling too.

Trevor:

Let's keep the hot streak going.

Trevor:

It's the Golden Age of America.

Scott:

No, it's,

Joe:

the reason American beef was banned was because they don't actually

Joe:

label the country of origin, and therefore it wasn't American beef.

Joe:

That was the risk.

Joe:

It was the beef coming from third countries that came through

Joe:

America, because the Americans don't label it as any different.

Joe:

Ah,

Trevor:

are they forced to label it this time?

Trevor:

No.

Trevor:

No.

Trevor:

Right.

Trevor:

So we could be getting Mexican beef.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Which is one of those things.

Scott:

I just think to myself that, um, my understanding is the American herd is

Scott:

quite down, so they're not actually, they're not actually planning on

Scott:

exporting very much beef to us at all.

Scott:

And our herd is quite high.

Scott:

So we're not, we're not planning on inboarding a hell of a lot of beef.

Trevor:

I, I just can't imagine.

Trevor:

Any good reason why we would want to buy American beef?

Joe:

Well, we can drop

Trevor:

the ban and

Joe:

then not buy

Trevor:

any.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

You would think it's going to arrive here way more expensive Yes.

Trevor:

Than local beef.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Because it's had to travel across the goddamn Pacific Ocean.

Scott:

Exactly.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's one of those things, I just think to myself that, um, he's just beating the

Scott:

drum and he's carrying on like a wanker.

Scott:

That's all, you know?

Scott:

It's like, um, I was in my fruit and veg shop the other day and I said,

Scott:

oh, where are the cherries from?

Scott:

They're from the United States.

Scott:

I said, oh, I won't be buying them then.

Scott:

And she just smiled, you know, small

Trevor:

act of protests, Scott,

Scott:

the eighties, because I just will not buy anything that comes out

Scott:

of America because, you know, the, the way the Americans are treating

Scott:

their allies is utterly disgusting.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

He's got good words of advice for some of his allies.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

Like what?

Trevor:

Oh, like this.

Trump:

Well, I say thi, I say two things to Europe.

Trump:

Stop the windmills.

Trump:

You're ruining your countries.

Trump:

I really mean it.

Trump:

It's so sad.

Trump:

You fly over and you see these windmills all over the place ruining your beautiful

Trump:

fields and valleys and killing your birds.

Trump:

And if they're stuck in the ocean, ruining your ocean.

Trevor:

There we go.

Trevor:

That's some advice.

Trevor:

Get rid of the windmills

Joe:

on the killing the birds point.

Joe:

You know that the average coal fired power station kills more birds than

Joe:

a wind farm of an equivalent size.

Joe:

Oh really?

Joe:

Yeah.

Scott:

Oh

Joe:

really?

Joe:

Because the pollutants in the cert, uh, just causes respiratory disease

Joe:

and, uh, heavy metal poisoning.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Okay.

Joe:

So yeah, I mean, all this crap about windmills, they

Joe:

don't care about the birds.

Joe:

Course not.

Joe:

No, it's just a See I, I see the fields of windmills and I think, oh wow.

Joe:

Clean energy.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Which is exactly what I think too.

Scott:

You know, they're not ugly, you know?

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

They do emit a sound, which is a little bit hard to deal with, but if you don't,

Scott:

if you don't build 'em close to people and all that sort of stuff, that's no problem.

Scott:

You know?

Scott:

And the other thing too is that you can have, you can have a wind

Scott:

farm, you can have it above grazing animals and all that sort of stuff.

Scott:

And they're just happily grazed down there.

Scott:

They're not pissed off by the sound.

Scott:

Well,

Trevor:

well, you can put it out in the ocean.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

You can put it out in the ocean.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

Beyond site or almost beyond sight.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And people still complain.

Trevor:

Yeah,

Scott:

I know.

Trevor:

And then they say, what about the whales is if the whales

Trevor:

dunno how to dodge these things and.

Trevor:

When you put a structure in the water, invariably it promotes marine life because

Trevor:

barnacles grow and it's almost like a artificial reef kind of thing, but Yep.

Trevor:

You just can't satisfy these people.

Joe:

No.

Joe:

And then if you're serious about sound pollution, I saw a documentary all

Joe:

about the, um, crypto farms in Texas.

Joe:

Right?

Joe:

Well, the air conditioning plants generate so much noise that their neighbors are

Joe:

being driven insane by the constant Hummer of the air conditioning because

Joe:

you've got thousands and thousands of computers and they've gotta call them.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

So you have huge air conditioning plants right next to residential neighborhoods.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

So Trump talks shit all the time.

Trevor:

We know.

Joe:

Yeah, he does.

Trevor:

Um, he's in a running battle with the Federal Reserve about interest rates.

Trevor:

Can I, sorry.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And apparently the Federal Reserve was undergoing some renovations.

Trevor:

Oh, yes.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So he decided to make up, this is very funny, a point of just, you know,

Trevor:

exaggerating the cost of the renovations.

Trevor:

And the guy who's in charge was standing beside him as Trump

Trevor:

tried to bullshit, bullshit about the high cost of the renovation.

Trevor:

And this guy just immediately grabbed the piece of paper, looked

Trevor:

over it and said, that's bullshit.

Trevor:

You the renovation figure, you are claiming a building

Trevor:

that was built five years ago

Scott:

mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And completed in the current renovation.

Trevor:

So here he is, here, this guy.

Trevor:

So we're taking a look and, uh, it looks like it's about 3.1 billion.

Trevor:

It went up a little bit or a lot.

Trevor:

Uh, so the 2.7 is now 3.1.

Trevor:

I'm not aware of that.

Trevor:

President.

Trevor:

It just came out.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

I haven't heard that from anybody.

Trevor:

The Fed?

Trevor:

Yeah, it just came, just came.

Trevor:

Our notes added about 3.1 as well.

Trevor:

3.1, 3.2. This came from us.

Trevor:

Yes.

Trevor:

I don't know who does that.

Trevor:

Are you're including the Martin renovation you just added?

Trevor:

That's our entire capital.

Trevor:

You just add, you just added in a third building is what that is.

Trevor:

That's a third building.

Trevor:

Including building.

Trevor:

It's, it's a building that's being built.

Trevor:

No, it's been, it was built five years ago.

Trevor:

We finished Martin five years ago.

Trevor:

It's part of the overall work.

Trevor:

It's not new, so we're gonna take a look.

Joe:

Was good.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

People don't generally call him on his bullshit.

Joe:

Mm. It was Jerome

Scott:

Powell, was it?

Joe:

Uh, I'm not sure who it was.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

But, uh, Trump will never admit that he's wrong.

Joe:

No.

Scott:

The other thing that I thought was absolutely hysterical was the

Scott:

fact that the, um, person that was in charge of the labor statistics

Scott:

and everything like that Oh yeah.

Scott:

He reported the, she reported the numbers and he fired her because

Scott:

he didn't like the numbers.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Because the labor figures are down.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

It's, it's the worst since COVID, I think.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Despite, exactly, yeah.

Joe:

Four years of Biden, and it was getting better.

Joe:

There was less unemployment.

Joe:

Suddenly it's gone backwards and, and Trump goes, oh, that,

Joe:

that's, that's obviously wrong.

Joe:

Fire them.

Joe:

Mm.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

So there we go.

Trevor:

Dear listener, that's the state of the world where a peaceful march across

Trevor:

the Sydney Harbor Bridge is painted in.

Trevor:

Completely different ways, depending on the news source

Trevor:

that you want to listen to.

Trevor:

And it's not through mistake, it's through deliberate decision making

Trevor:

by the powers that be in terms of wanting to propagandize the community.

Trevor:

And it's happening on that issue.

Trevor:

It's happening on a lot of issues.

Trevor:

Like guys, I used to think, you know, on any issue that was a little

Trevor:

bit complicated, if you sat me in a room with somebody for an hour,

Trevor:

I could explain it to them and convince 'em of the correct solution.

Trevor:

But of now, after all, after 478 episodes, Gaza, well actually,

Trevor:

first of all, COVID and vaccines.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And then Gaza convinced me that, nope, uh, tribalism is way too, um, oh, in fact,

Joe:

don't change minds.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Yeah.

Trevor:

And people just don't wanna listen.

Trevor:

So

Joe:

people are worried about a social death is worse than actual death.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

People will do things that are likely to kill 'em as long as it means

Joe:

they're not excluded from their team.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

And so they will frighten me, twist and contort things.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

To,

Trevor:

to somehow arrive at a position that's consistent with their

Trevor:

tribe and the smarter they are.

Trevor:

The clever they are at, at twisting and contorting these things.

Trevor:

It's a frightening world.

Trevor:

Dear listener.

Trevor:

There's an expose of what happened in the last two weeks.

Trevor:

Can we keep doing this?

Trevor:

I'll try.

Trevor:

Uh, I think maybe a book next week might do a book review.

Trevor:

Rutger Bregman.

Trevor:

I've gotta read his, it's all about people.

Trevor:

Saying, don't take a bullshit job.

Trevor:

Take a job that's good for your talent.

Trevor:

So all these smart people who end up working for Goldman Sachs and Morgan

Trevor:

Chase and just end up in finance should be out doing other things that have,

Joe:

have you seen more important for

Trevor:

humanity?

Joe:

The British guy who, uh, was born, grew up in the east end

Joe:

of London, ended up working in the city, made several million.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

And he's now a big advocate for, um, taxing the rich.

Joe:

Right.

Joe:

And he goes on news programs where of course is, oh, you

Joe:

know, we can't tax the rich.

Joe:

They'll just move offshore.

Joe:

You know, it, it should be the poor people that pay more because, you know,

Joe:

they can't afford to leave, basically.

Joe:

And he's saying, yeah, he, he's seen the.

Joe:

Widening gap between the rich and the poor, and the middle

Joe:

class has just disappeared.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Talking about his dad who was working class, who could afford a house,

Joe:

you know, single, single income, and there was four of them or whatever.

Joe:

Uh, and saying that, that just doesn't exist now.

Joe:

And, and he's saying, the only way we're gonna reverse this is by

Joe:

taking some of the wealth that the, uh, rich have squirreled away and

Joe:

feeding it back into the system.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

So very, very interesting because yeah, he's a financier and every time

Joe:

someone goes, oh, this is the reason why we can't do it, he goes, bullshit.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Here are the numbers to prove you wrong.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

I studied economics at Oxford and London School of Economics.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

So he knows what he's talking

Trevor:

about.

Trevor:

What are the chances though of convincing people of things like

Trevor:

that when you can't convince 'em?

Trevor:

Of a genocide and a mass starvation that's right before our eyes.

Joe:

Well, I think it's interesting that the voices out there, even though

Joe:

it's a single voice at the moment.

Joe:

Mm mm At least it's a beginning.

Joe:

Mm.

Joe:

And maybe other time attitudes will change.

Trevor:

Oh, Joe, that's a lovely to finish on.

Trevor:

Well, the,

Joe:

the, the Golden Age.

Joe:

The Gilded Age died, uh, unionism became a thing.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Maybe that will happen in the future.

Scott:

Mm-hmm.

Scott:

I think it will actually happen because my union was, um, protesting up here today.

Scott:

Um, you know, there was a whole lot of them out there

Scott:

at, at the front of the, um,

Trevor:

the Union of Accountants.

Scott:

No, they're professional.

Scott:

What's it called?

Scott:

Professionals Australia.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

So they back, uh, accountants, chemists, and engineers.

Trevor:

Right.

Scott:

Anyway.

Scott:

Really?

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So there were engineers and all that sort of stuff that got the niggers

Scott:

in a twist about something or other.

Scott:

So they're out there protesting today.

Trevor:

Alright.

Trevor:

We'll be back, uh uh, next week.

Trevor:

Join a union.

Trevor:

Meanwhile, you should actually,

Scott:

no, you should actually join a union.

Scott:

Yep.

Scott:

'cause I think that if more people actually joined a union

Scott:

and started actually speaking up, then the unions would actually

Scott:

become something more mainstream.

Scott:

And if they're more mainstream, then the employers are gonna

Scott:

start shitting themselves again.

Trevor:

Mm

Scott:

mm

Trevor:

Again, if I reading the Courier mail, the amount

Trevor:

of anti CFM EEU stuff mm-hmm.

Trevor:

That's coming out.

Trevor:

Yeah.

Trevor:

I know.

Trevor:

In that paper.

Trevor:

C Never.

Trevor:

Never is it pointed out that thanks to that union.

Trevor:

Uh, tradies are earning good coin.

Trevor:

Thank you very much.

Trevor:

Well, it also, like middle

Joe:

managers, thanks to the union, you work a five day week, not a six day week.

Joe:

Yes.

Joe:

Mm-hmm.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

So, um,

Scott:

thanks to the union, you get two weeks off a year if you get

Scott:

sick, thanks to the union, you get four days, four weeks off a year.

Joe:

As holiday.

Scott:

As holiday.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

You know, it's just that all these things, dear listener,

Scott:

they didn't start yesterday.

Scott:

These things were fought for over a mm-hmm.

Scott:

Very long period of time and the unions were actually out there fighting for it.

Scott:

So I honestly believe that's why we've gotta actually, we should

Scott:

become a member of a union.

Scott:

Gotta have socialists.

Scott:

I've

Trevor:

gotta find a union for podcasters.

Trevor:

Mm-hmm.

Trevor:

I don't body corporate chair persons back to a voluntary basis.

Trevor:

And, uh, art supply, sales reps. If I just, yeah, I don't think

Trevor:

there's been there, but be a shopee.

Trevor:

I could start one.

Trevor:

Maybe that could be shoppy.

Trevor:

Yeah, that'd be good.

Trevor:

But certainly, yeah.

Trevor:

So

Scott:

an anti abortionist.

Trevor:

We've gotta go back next week, hopefully.

Trevor:

Bye for now.

Trevor:

Talk to you then.

Trevor:

Bye.

Trevor:

It's good night from me,

Joe:

and that's a good night from him.

Trevor:

Good night.

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