Episode 173 – Morrison is a fair dinkum drongo

Episode 173 – Morrison is a fair dinkum drongo

Our fair dinkum Aussie podcast would like to swap the blithering idiot Scomo for an evil genius.

Qantas is facing calls to match Virgin’s decision to give priority boarding to war veterans and salute them before take-off.

3:05 Oh FFS!

Qantas is facing calls to match Virgin’s decision to give priority boarding to war veterans and salute them before take-off.

The US-style proposal comes at the end of a week-long campaign by the Coalition, which will see veterans given discount cards and lapel pins, on top of a half-a-billion dollar extension of the War Memorial.

Defence Industry Minister Steve Ciobo said it “would be terrific” if Qantas matched Virgin’s pledge, which is part of a News Corp campaign.

“I want to congratulate Virgin for, in many respects, being a trailblazer,” he said on Sky News.

Veterans would be saluted at take-off and given first access to Virgin aircraft under the plan supported by Prime Minister Scott Morrison and launched by Virgin Australia CEO John Borghetti on Sunday.

Virgin Australia reconsiders veteran salutes following backlash

Virgin Australia has said it will now seek public consultation before going ahead with plans to offer priority boarding and a salute to veterans prior to take-off on its flights.

The Moral?

Clearly, there are people who would like to import every bad idea from the Disunited States from saluting veterans, to unrestricted gun ownership to Christian nutters running the parliament.

Anglican school students ask principals to give up right to sack gay teachers

9:13 On Wednesday, it was revealed that 34 Anglican schools in greater Sydney had written to the federal education minister, Dan Tehan, demanding protection of their right to sack gay teachers or expel gay students.

In response, students have begun a letter-writing campaign of their own asking for tolerance from their former principals.More than 1,000 current and former students from Anglican schools have written to their principals asking them to give up “the right to discriminate” against LGBT students and teachers.

In their letter to the minister, the 34 schools said

“The debate has been polemicised as the right to expel gay students, with little evidence that this occurs, and the right to dismiss gay staff members, again with little evidence that this occurs,” it read.

‘We are sorry’: Anglican school backtracks from letter on gay teachers and students

A prominent Sydney Anglican school has apologised for signing a controversial letter calling on the Morrison government to maintain laws allowing schools to discriminate against gay teachers and pupils, and blamed church leaders for “unintended hurt and division” in the school community.

Faced with a backlash, the head of Barker College, Phillip Heath, pledged his support for removing exemptions to anti-discrimination laws that currently let religious schools discriminate against LGBTI staff and students.

Mr Heath earlier told the Fairfax Media he was “dismayed” by the response to the letter, which was signed by 34 Anglican principals and sent to all federal MPs including Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

On Tuesday, the north shore school went further and apologised to parents, students and alumni in two dispatches to the school community. Barker leaders also appeared to blame the Sydney Anglican diocese for a poorly-timed and poorly-worded communique.

The chair of the school council, Peter Berkley, said the letter had been circulated and signed “when it looked like legislative changes would be rushed through the Parliament”. Those changes were not introduced during the last parliamentary session due to disagreement with Labor on the details.

Mr Berkley also blamed media reports and a social media “firestorm” for wrongly giving Barker’s 2100 students the impression the school wanted the right to expel gay pupils.

“This has hurt our young people. Some of our students thought we might actually want to expel them for being gay. We did not foresee this and are sorry,” Mr Berkley wrote.

Now we are up to two schools who are sorry for signing the letter

… but on Tuesday, the heads of Abbotsleigh and Barker College – who both signed the letter – apologised to students in new letters seen by the Guardian, admitting that the logic behind the original letter was “incongruous”.

Megan Krimmer, the headmistress of Abbotsleigh, wrote on Tuesday that it was “unfortunate” that the move for religious freedom had been tied to the discriminatory exemptions.

“Reflecting deeply on the feedback and issues raised, the incongruity between saying Abbotsleigh does not discriminate, and supporting highly discriminatory legislation, albeit temporarily, has become clear.

LNP civil war as ‘Christian right’ flexes muscle in vote

15:26 A NEW front in the Liberal-Nationals Party’s civil war has erupted just as Scott Morrison tries to convince Queenslanders his Government is acting in their interests.

Senior party members have told The Courier-Mail they fear a statewide stack of “Christian soldiers” – sparked by long-held grievances over the axing of Tony Abbott and last month’s abortion bill – has begun.

Members were shocked on Monday when more than 100 members arrived unexpectedly at a Metro West meeting to throw out chair Leigh Warren for a more conservative “country party” member.

Another vote will be held tomorrow, with many fearing the hardline push in other states is now happening within the LNP with the goal being to roll president Gary Spence at next year’s party convention.

Others at Monday’s meeting, however, rejected suggestions Ms Warren’s dumping was a Christian right push.

They said it was a reflection of the “reasonable right” flexing its muscles as well as payback over the rolling of Federal MP Jane Prentice this year.

It is understood Young LNP members also turned up to vote against Ms Warren in response to her push for those accused of making the white power symbol in a campaign photograph to be expelled.

Here Are All the Non-Religious Candidates Running for State and Federal Office

19:22 How many non-religious candidates are on ballots all across the country on Tuesday?

With tremendous help from the Freethought Equality Fund PAC and the Center for Freethought Equality— both of which are affiliated with the American Humanist Association — we now have an answer to that question.

There are 140 non-religious candidates vying for seats in state legislatures. 31 are running for re-election.

15 non-religious candidates or members of the Congressional Freethought Caucus are running for federal office, 10 of whom are running for re-election.

Maybe Quotas Are needed For Juries, Maybe not

21:28 A judge refused to proceed with an all-male jury in a rape case.

The Qld Jury Act 1995

NSW Jury Act 1977

Is it now a crime to be a twat?

27:45 Grenfell Tower effigy video leads to arrest of five men by London police

From Spiked:

I cannot be the only person who finds the Metropolitan Police’s promise to investigate the Grenfell Tower bonfire video more chilling than the video itself. Yes, the video is repulsive. But what crime has been committed here? Being a wanker? Being a scumbag? Saying disgusting things in your own back garden? Those are criminal offences now? If they are, then Britain has far greater things to worry about than the fact that a handful of dreadful people decided to burn an effigy of Grenfell Tower for Bonfire Night.

Mark Latham and Pauline Hanson are a marriage made in hell

30:29 Australia’s most frequent job-seeker has teamed up with Australia’s least loyal employer. This should end well.

Scott Morrison – An evil genius would be better than this blithering idiot

32:44 From an article in Crickey –

A decade on from the election of Kevin 07, our sixth prime minister since John Howard has turned out to be an absolute blithering idiot. ScoMo rounds out the series, not with the medieval strangeness of Tony Abbott, the exhausting delusions of Malcolm Turnbull, or Kevin Rudd … but with plain old-fashioned suburban crapness.

Alan Jones tells them what to say

Media Watch exposed Fair Dinkum Power from this fair dinkum drongo.

Mad as Hell exposed Scott Morrison repeating “The Central Coast”

Scott Morrison wanks on about electricity prices

Scott Morrison – The things that matter

41:14 From The Shovel: “I’m Just A Regular, Fair Dinkum, Dinky Di, True Blue Aussie Bloke”: A Personal Message From Scott Morrison

ABC reporter asks the PM a (perfectly respectable) question about people’s concerns about the removal of leaders. This was the PM’s answer: “I think the ABC should stop turning up to press conferences and asking questions from the Labor Party.”

Scomo’s PR plan is doomed.

45:05 “There is a mystique about office. People need to believe that this office and the people in it are doing something greater than any of us could potentially do. And once you start using informal media like Twitter and less credible outlets for your messages, you begin to undermine the message because the source of the message is not credible,” he said.

“It increases his approachability a bit but undermines that competence and credibility.”

The Belfast Cakeshop – The Facts are interesting

47:24 Belfast cakeshop – We may need to reconsider. It turns out that if you bring an image, they will scan it and put it on the cake. Is that compelled speech?

Abortion law – The Fine Print

Conscientious Objection in the Termination of Pregnancy Bill 2018 (Qld)

Trump on Citizenship

49:57 According to Trump: “We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States … with all of those benefits,” Trump said. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

What happens if a child is born in Australia to foreign parents?

Don’t assume that the newborn will automatically gain Australian citizenship, it is very much dependent on the type of visa or status which the parents hold. Up until the 20th August 1986, all children that were born were classed as Australian citizens, but the rise in temporary migration prompted a change in law.

Current legislation states that if at least one parent is an Australian citizen or permanent resident then the child will automatically acquire Australian citizenship.  Once a baby is born, it’s just a case of the parents applying for an Australian passport once a birth certificate has been issued.

A good way of remembering this, is that if both parents have different migration statuses, then the new born gets the so called ‘best’ status.

If the parents are both permanent residents, the child still gets citizenship.  This means their baby will beat them in the race for citizenship and a much-coveted Australian passport. It’s when the parents are on temporary visas when the situation gets a little more complicated.

What if the parents are on visas?

If both parents arrive on a visa then legally the child will hold the same type of visa.  Once the baby arrives, there is no need for the parents to apply for the visa, but you are duty bound to contact the Department of Immigration, so that a visa can be attached to the child’s passport.  There is usually little or no cost involved.

This applies to various types of visas for example a  Temporary Work visa (Subclass 457)  or student visa.  When the parents move onto a permanent residency visa, so too does the baby.

Midterm election

52:27 The American midterm elections are held nationwide every four years, halfway through the sitting president’s four-year term — hence the name ‘the midterms’.

Representatives in the House serve two-year terms, which means all 435 House seats are up for re-election.

Senators, however, serve staggered six-year terms and 35 Senate seats are up for grabs this fall.

There are also governors’ races in 36 states and three American territories this year, and a whole lot of lower-level state and local races that you don’t really need to know about — but if you are interested, here’s a full list.

More on Consent

53:37 Last week we spoke about compulsory consent training for students at UTS and listener Steve has directed us to a Radiolab podcast series titled  “In The No”. It is worth a listen.

Disturbing stories of Aboriginal sexual abuse

58:10 There is no shortage of such evidence in Louis Nowra’s Bad Dreaming and we know that Manne has read it because he’s said so himself. Nowra quotes and glosses extensively the work of W.E. Roth, a doctor and anthropologist who was chief protector of Aborigines in Queensland. “In the Tully district, a very young man would give his betrothed to an old man to sleep with her and train her for him. The idea was that the elder would `make the little child’s genitalia develop all the more speedily’. There was no restriction of age or social status at which the bride would be delivered up. As Roth observed, `It is of no uncommon occurrence to see an individual carrying on his shoulder his little child-wife who is perhaps too tired to toddle any further.”’

You need to have regard to the context of the time

Jimmy and Scott via Messenger. One of the things I find crazy about our friend’s (Morrocan Soup Kitchen) argument is that she is talking about the “context of the times” when it comes to Islam but she refuses to acknowledge the “context of the times” when it comes to colonialism.  It’s kind of a little bit crazy.–

How explorer and pirate William Dampier’s comments on Aboriginal people in 1697 set the tone for future sentiment

According to The 12th Man: This has to be one of the most ludicrous pieces of historical revisionism I’ve seen in a while. And the good people at the ABC see fit to publish it for national consumption.

How dare a 17th century Englishman describe indigenous people as he saw them?

If only Dampier had shown more sensitivity and consideration for the plight of people whose descendants would be sucked into the vortex of nascent globalisation, then life would have been so different for them. Really?

The context of the times

Used to excuse Aboriginals but not Dampier

Used to excuse Mohammed but not colonialists (the problem with Mohammed is he was describing a moral code that was supposed to be universal in place and time)

The Qld Human Rights Bill

20 Freedom of thought, conscience, religion and belief
(1) Every person has the right to freedom of thought, conscience,
religion and belief, including—
(a) the freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of the
person’s choice; and
(b) the freedom to demonstrate the person’s religion or
belief in worship, observance, practice and teaching,
either individually or as part of a community, in public
or in private.
(2) A person must not be coerced or restrained in a way that limits
the person’s freedom to have or adopt a religion or belief.

27 Cultural rights—generally
All persons with a particular cultural, religious, racial or
linguistic background must not be denied the right, in
community with other persons of that background, to enjoy
their culture, to declare and practise their religion and to use
their language.

58 Conduct of public entities
(1) It is unlawful for a public entity—
(a) to act or make a decision in a way that is not compatible
with human rights; or
(b) in making a decision, to fail to give proper consideration
to a human right relevant to the decision.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a public entity if the entity
could not reasonably have acted differently or made a
different decision because of a statutory provision, a law of
the Commonwealth or another State or otherwise under law.
A public entity is acting to give effect to a statutory provision that is not
compatible with human rights.
(3) Also, subsection (1) does not apply to a body established for a
religious purpose if the act or decision is done or made in
accordance with the doctrine of the religion concerned and is
necessary to avoid offending the religious sensitivities of the
people of the religion.


One comment on “Episode 173 – Morrison is a fair dinkum drongo
  1. Clinton Riggs says:

    On sub-incision. I had lived and worked in the Kimberley WA for a number of years. I’ve had a number of Aboriginal friends and work colleagues tell me that sub-incision or a form of it is still practiced. They refer to it as “Law” and is used by remote communities as punishment for pedofiles, rapist and sometimes young men fathering children out of wedlock. As far as I was told an incision was made at the base or along the penis so that the male could not reproduce.

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