Eric Abetz

We give Eric Abetz a zero. He’s more of a religious zealot than Tony Abbott.

Religion: Christian – a member of the Christian Reformed Churches of Australia (an extremely conservative denomination in the Calvinist tradition). Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Abetz

Religious Activism: Abetz “has been variously associated with conservative groups, including the Association of Christian Parent Controlled Schools, Salt Shakers, Focus on the Family, Lyons Forum, Endeavour Forum, Family Council of Victoria, Fatherhood Foundation, Australian Christian Lobby, Australian Family Association and Right to Life Australia” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Abetz

Voting record: Abetz has voted exactly as you would expect a fundamentalist Christian to vote:

Voted very strongly against increasing availability of abortion drugs: https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/tasmania/eric_abetz/policies/31

Voted very strongly against stem-cell research: https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/tasmania/eric_abetz/policies/22

Voted very strongly against a national redress scheme for institutional abuse survivors: https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/tasmania/eric_abetz/policies/125

Voted very strongly against extending government benefits to same-sex couples: https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/tasmania/eric_abetz/policies/29

Voted moderately for funding the national school chaplaincy program: https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/tasmania/eric_abetz/policies/61

Quotes on various issues:

On imposing his religious view on the rest of us: “In case I need to declare I identify as a Christian. That forms the basis of my worldview which in turn provides me with a moral code which in turn informs my approach to lawmaking.” https://abetz.com.au/speeches/the-foundations-of-successful-conservative-policy-the-wise-and-foolish-builders

On Parliamentary prayers: He has strongly argued against the Green party’s attempts to remove the Lord’s prayer from the daily opening of Federal Parliament saying “The latest Green attack as part of their ongoing attempt to rewrite our history and deny our heritage,” and pointed out that Australia’s freedom and wealth have been built on our religious underpinnings, making us the envy of the world.”
https://www.sydneycatholic.org/news/latest_news/2014/2014214_599.shtml

On separation of Church and State he quotes Ronald Reagan on his blog “And I know that you will agree with me that standing up for Australia also means standing up for the God, who has so blessed our land. I believe this country hungers for a spiritual revival. I believe it longs to see traditional values reflected in public policy again. To those who argue the separation of Church and State as a reason for excluding God from more and more of our institutions and everyday life, may I just say: separation of Church and State was not to protect the people of this country from religious values; it was to protect religious values from government tyranny.” https://abetz.com.au/speeches/address-to-the-australian-christian-lobby-conference-brisbane

On Same-sex marriage: He’s said he won’t be bound by the same-sex marriage poll and will vote according to his conscience: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/27/eric-abetz-coalition-mps-will-not-be-bound-by-plebiscite-on-marriage-equality

On Australia: He believes that “Our rich Judeo-Christian heritage as a nation should be celebrated and taught as the foundation of our nation’s greatness” and “Our society and its well-being – the envy of the world – is firmly rooted in our Judeo-Christian heritage.” https://abetz.com.au/speeches/the-foundations-of-successful-conservative-policy-the-wise-and-foolish-builders

On abortion:  “I think the studies, and I think they date back from the 1950s, assert that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer.” http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/media-bias-and-religion-its-not-about-faith-or-politics-but-how-extremely-they-are-expressed/news-story/347407eae2e89501998da4fe5e9061b9

On claiming there is anti-Christian bias in the media: “If you have a Christian, conservative point of view to offer, the media will have this negative-sentiment override which will simply be critical of any views that you may seek to express …” http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/media-bias-and-religion-its-not-about-faith-or-politics-but-how-extremely-they-are-expressed/news-story/347407eae2e89501998da4fe5e9061b9


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