Episode 98 – The Fist and Right Wing Tony discuss Islam

In this episode of the podcast, we are joined by Right Wing Tony.
1:03 We look at the aftermath of the Manchester bombing
1:17 Jonathon Pie on the attack. Carrying on as normal achieves nothing. Apparently, if I get angry, the Terrorists win. A free pass into paradise? Where did he get that idea? We may never know why he did this? Check his WhatsApp.
3:52 Right Wing Tony – We’ve been cowed to say nothing. The Fist wrote a letter to the editor objecting to Karen Brooks who said unity is everything. Refusing to discuss Islam is fake unity. RWT asks if Islam is compatible with civilised society. The religion encourages a fatalistic worldview.
7:44 The Fake Sheik Tawhidi argues with Rifi. Rifi is a moderate apologist for Islam who says suicide bombers are not true Muslims.
9:44 Rifi must have bought an abbreviated version of The Quran. Was the IRA Catholic? The literal interpretation relies on the ordinary meaning of the words.
11:45 We look at a few articles, one by Douglas Murray describing the strange death of liberal Europe and Europe’s unwillingness, contrary to the United States, to be proud of its values and expect assimilation from its immigrants.
14:44 RWT concludes that assimilation is impossible and notes the French have come up with the word “integrisme” which means a refusal to assimilate. In Australia, we seem to be happy to allow parallel lifestyles.
17:25 We discuss the Muslim enclave proposed for Brisbane. A simple question by a councillor led to an allegation of potential racism by Mayor Quirk. This is not a matter of race and it shows you have to be brave to enter the debate as you will be labelled a racist.
21:07 Some European leaders are now acknowledging the problem of parallel lifestyles.
23:14 Kenan Malik notes that in his youth racism was an issue and different races campaigned together and worked to improve lives across various ethnicities but after the Rushdie affair the rebellion divided into ethnicities. Previously a Muslim youth would join a workers union but after identity politics money funnelled to leaders of minority groups and claiming minority and disadvantage was the new key to gaining government money. RWT notes that Italian immigrant families encouraged their youth to assimilate.
30:02 The Muslim 2nd generation isn’t assimilating. The Fist hates it when people argue that refugees aren’t committing terrorism but refuses to acknowledge it is the sons and daughters of refugees who often are.
The ASIO boss states that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam and many academics agree with him which seems contrary the facts. According to the Asio boss, “ASIO does not make assessments on the basis of religion”. He has support from counter-terrorism experts.
37:25 Waleed Aly says terrorism is a form of theatre … an irritant. RWT proposes shutting down all religious schools.
39:45 The Lindt cafe police incompetence means we should not trust the so-called experts who talk down the Islamic element of the problem.
42:17 Anne Aly said it was a long bow to link refugees with terrorism. She says they became radicalised here. It is a strange chicken and egg story. If eggs were nuclear bombs we would start asking “where are the chickens?” but as RWT says, our leaders have decided to leave them as free range. The Fist refers to his favourite article which describes a distilled form of Islam which happens when Muslims are the minority. Kids become more extreme than their parents as part of proving and wallowing in their identity.
47:01 RWT refers to a book “Islamic Exceptionalism”. Basically, Islam is different and exceptional and positive outcomes for Islam are unlikely because of the holy texts.
50:50 Even a moderate well-meaning Muslim is dangerous because of segregation.
51:37 Lawrence Krauss gives his refrigerator argument on QandA. This ignores the manpower spent keeping us safe. Those who argue this should be put on a plane where no security screening has taken place.
53:45 RWT describes the horrifying experience of an Australian girl in an Islamic faith school in NSW.
57:00 Meanwhile feminists blame toxic masculinity for Manchester.
59:01 We have a great listener feedback section again featuring Landon Hardbottom and RWT approves the proposed tax breaks for corporations.
1:02:18 A nuclear weapon is a sound strategy if you want to avoid regime change by the USA
1:03:00 What Problem has been listening to too many podcasts.
1:04:28 Getting legal instructions from a sports stadium is easier than a river.
At this point the normal podcast finishes, however, patrons who are supporting the show through Patreon have access to a special extended edition of the podcast which continues for another 45 minutes during which we discuss Indonesia, The Philippines, Taiwan and the Margaret Court Arena fiasco and the call by Aboriginal leaders for constitutional change.


The strange death of liberal Europe

They hate their adopted country and we consider creating a Muslim enclave in Brisbane

The Sunrise argument  Dr Jamal Rifi and Imam Shaikh Mohammad Tawhidi

This was Islam simmered in a sauce of Midwestern sincerity and boiled down to its dark, concentrated core. This was dangerous.

To say that Islamic State isn’t Islamic in these circumstances is like saying Opus Dei isn’t Catholic, or ultra-Orthodox Jews aren’t Jewish.

Feminists blame men

ASIO Boss – “nothing to do with refugees”

Indonesia – Public floggings for gay men but a great inspiration to the world and IS linked to bombing

Meanwhile, in Taiwan – Taiwan’s constitutional court has ruled that same-sex couples have the right to legally marry, in the first such ruling to be handed down in an Asian country.

The Philippines – Philippines: Cathedral torched, priest, parishioners taken hostage

Margaret Court – calls for the arena to be renamed

Constitutional amendments for Aboriginal people.

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