Episode 16 – 14 October 2015

1:28 The Anglican Church wants to import the crazy USA bakery gay marriage argument into Australia. The Anglican Bishop calls it justifiable discrimination. Perhaps he has been radicalised. It is another example of the appalling morality of religious people.

6:58 What do India and Australia have in common? Religious nutters who want to allow discrimination in adoption decisions. Mother Theresa’s order is getting out of the adoption game as new laws allow potential adoptive parents who may be single, divorced or separated.

9:23 A weather report from Syria. It’s warm and sunny and perfect for launching fighter jets.  Russia has joined the game and everyone is upset as apparently, the USA are always the “good guys” and the Russians “the “bad guys”.

13:47 Need your Catholic marriage annulled? Good news, it just got easier. But … these annulments are just a sham. We discuss the incredible annulment of Joseph Kennedy’s marriage to Sheila Rauch.

19:34 Jarryd Hayne was at a Hillsong conference and blamed the Jews for killing the Jewish Jesus. We investigate who really killed Jesus. It turns out that the Velvet Glove was at least 20% responsible for the death of Jesus.

27:03 Kristina Kennealy. She says her Catholic faith and gender influenced her decisions. on atheist politicians. ” … I have often wondered about atheist politicians. Surely the logical conclusion to atheism is nihilism, in which case, why bother engaging in political activity, trying to improve the lives of your fellow citizens and make the world a better place? Which politician is scarier: the one who insists there is ontological meaning and transcendental purpose to our lives, or the one who denies objective truth and believes that existence is ultimately a useless void?”

33:13 The TPP has been agreed and it is up to the member countries to pass the necessary legislation. We explain some of the dangers of the TPP.

47:28 The problem with religious tolerance. Suddenly we are in the land of bumper-sticker postmodernism, where truths are perspectival and no one can be objectively wrong. Like the unity of all religions, the validity of all religions is a lovely sentiment (Coexist!), but it is dangerous, disrespectful, and untrue. Dangerous, because it means people will be less likely to fight against injustices and falsehoods that are underwritten by religion. Disrespectful, because authentic respect involves caring when others’ beliefs go wrong, not just letting them believe whatever they want. And untrue, because basic logic tells us that “God condones slavery” and “God forbids slavery” cannot be equally valid claims.

54:44 Radicalisation and what can be done. A sense of not belonging comes from running parallel societies


The Anglican Church wants to import the crazy USA bakery gay marriage argument into Australia. click here

What do India and Australia have in common? Religious nutters who want to allow discrimination in adoption decisions. click here and click here

A weather report from Syria click here

Need your Catholic marriage annulled? Good news, it just got easier. click here  Want to be a transsexual god parent. Bad news, It just got harder. click here

You are at least 20% responsible for the death of Jesus. click here

Kristina Kennealy on atheist politicians. click here

How Muslims feel. Professor Samina Yasmeen from the centre for Muslim States and Societies

The TPP. It’s not about free trade. It’s about extending monopoly powers of big American multinationals. click here

Andrew Robb says we have ISDS clauses in 29 existing treaties and the sun still rises. Yes but none are with the USA and see how Canada has faired. click here

The AUSFTA actually reduced trade. click here

The TPP will stop New Zealand from introducing Australian style foreign investment rules. click here

The problem with religious tolerance. click here


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